On 1 February 2012 17:33, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin@kde.org> wrote:
Am 01.02.2012 21:54, schrieb Timothy Pearson:

Am 01.02.2012 20:47, schrieb Robert Xu:
All there:
https://gist.github.com/1718892

Feel free to speak up should you have an opinion - the door is always
open!
Before misinformation about KWin spread, I dare to speak up.

17:47:35 <kb9vqf-offsite> Personally I would hate to have to install
kwin, which relies on a bunch of other KDE4 libraries and automatically
installs that akodani garbage scanner stuff, just to use TDE

Personally I hate statements without checking facts. KWin neither
requires Akonadi nor Nepomuk. My CI-system has neither one installed.
But to give proof:

martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kde-window-manager | grep
akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-runtime | grep akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-workspace-bin | grep
akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$

So this should not at all be a problem for Trinity - yeah \o/ :-)

As I said... "unless I am wrong" :-)  I was speaking from past experience
only, and the basic steps outlined still hold.  twin is not going to go
away, but kwin should be allowed (along with any other WM) in TDE
sessions.

I meant nepomuk, not akodanai.  It can be hard to keep all of the (foreign
language) codenames straight in one's mind. :-)

On my Ubuntu system nepomuk has to be installed with kwin:


===========================================================================

~$ sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
 kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools
kubuntu-debug-installer libkdecorations4 libkephal4 libkwineffects1a
libkworkspace4
 libvirtodbc0 qapt-batch virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 kde-window-manager kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdoctools kubuntu-debug-installer libkdecorations4 libkephal4
libkwineffects1a
 libkworkspace4 libvirtodbc0 qapt-batch virtuoso-minimal
virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common


===========================================================================

~$ dpkg -L kdebase-runtime-data | grep nepomuk | grep autostart
/usr/share/autostart/nepomukserver.desktop


===========================================================================

so that is NOT an option for me.
This is a packaging issue. As I mentioned: my CI builds without anything of Nepomuk (no soprano, no strigi, etc.) being installed at all on my server.

Cheers
Martin


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Same here. About 174Mb of depends getting pulld in on ubuntu - no thanks!

I see the reasoning behind switching to kwin. I don't see it being worth the effort.