On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Tiago Marques <tiagomnm@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Kristopher Gamrat <pikidalto@gmail.com> wrote:
Having extra space in my toolbars isn't a big issue, my screen is
large enough (1200x800), though I try to keep from clutter. There are
plenty of browsers already out there, the browser I'm thinking of is
mainly just as a long term way for me to practice (and also to help
fulfill a desire to move away from GTK). I might share it with some
people just to get some feedback and perhaps to have something to "fit
in" with the KDE3 interface. For me, it isn't really enough to apply
whatever Qt theme I'm using to GTK, I've found (generally speaking,
not true in every case) that Qt is more stable than GTK and takes up
less space. Also, adding in both sets of libs increases storages needs
(both hard disk and ISOs).


I know it does, it just is not worthwhile to have duplicate applications for each toolkit. In my perfect world we would but I also can't say that it is bad from a performance and memory usage point. From what I've noticed - and I tend to look at those things in some detail - it is mostly problematic when you have to load things that depend too much on foreign desktop environments like Gnome, as the toolkit is mostly a slim lib to load IMHO.

Best regards,
Tiago
Depends on how you look at things. Just like people will argue Free vs Proprietary, this text editor vs that text editor, this desktop vs that desktop, etc., people will argue Qt vs GTK. The head developer for Ark Linux only uses Qt, while one of the other team prefers programming in Qt but uses an app or two written with GTK.

I mentioned before that I only use Pidgin and Firefox because they do things that Kopete and Konqueror struggle with, and that otherwise I wouldn't care for them. Perhaps I'd want to keep Firefox as my default browser if I prefered GTK (it is a good browser), but I'd much prefer to stay with Konqueror as it has proven itself time and again with it's stability (Firefox doesn't crash very often, but I've had it crash more often than Konqueror, and the generic Linux package from Mozilla's site has had a bit of trouble on my various systems) and swiss army knife capabilities in file management. I'd much rather just fix Kopete and Konqueror and use them. Fewer apps, less disk space taken that I could otherwise use to package software and learn to program, more consistent theme on my desktop...

I do realize having both Qt and GTK don't really use too much in the way of resources, but for distros offering a 700MB ISO as the primary install image, every little bit helps. Ark Linux doesn't offer DVD or BluRay images, only 700MB CD images. We may decide to expand it somewhere down the road, but one of the main points here is to not over crowd new users (how do i choose from these 50 editors just to edit this one file? there are just too many here to compare features!) -- we try to keep things simple and easy and provide just the stuff that new users need to settle in (one editor, one browser, some games, an office suite, etc.).

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Kris
"Piki"
Ark Linux Webmaster
Trinity KDE Packager