Re: PICCORO's  and Luke's comments

In general I agree with both of them, but...  The improvements and fixes, that they and others want (me too), are beyond the resources that are currently available.  As technology improves (or maybe I should say "keeps changing") the problems with TDE will get worse.  Continuing to Kludge things, just to get around new software conflicts and other changes--yet still keep TDE working--can only last so long and go so far.

I personally want to keep TDE on my computer until I die, and that is looking more difficult everyday. My solution, which I suggest the TDE staff looks into, is using containers, like Docker, to encapsulate TDE with all the software that it needs to function correctly.  When you do that, upgrading software outside the container, does not alter what happens inside the container, which cures all of the issues like installing a newer version of GTK or QT trashing TDE.  When you use containers, you no longer need to create individual versions or packages of TDE for every Distro.

This fall I plan on creating my own TDE container that will sit on top of Devuan.  If all works well I will share that TDE container as well as the complete TDE/Devuan setup, with anyone that wants it.

Keith

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:30 PM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com> wrote:

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)

http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

2017-05-14 14:44 GMT-04:30 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>:

 this can be entirely solved by *devuan* adding the TDE packages to
devuan/testing... and compiling them on their own server farms,
signing them with *their* package keys.

will be the firts time TDE will be supported and includen in a distribution.. there's any distribution that include it yet since years

 

 but yes, please: fix the darn /opt path first!!  libraries should go
in /usr/lib/tde (or somesuch), qt3 should go in /usr/lib/qt3 to keep
the namespaces totally separate from qt4, qt5, and so on.

maybe this are the main reason.. among others like too much focus on features window-like and less improvements, 

by example there's not modem-manager improvements.. today that any phone acts like a modem for computer.. or the VPN configuration still are poor informative when a new incoming TDE user try to connecting to sonicwall

 

l.

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