Hi everyone, this is my first post to the list. I proposed myself to translate new strings into french and Tim advised me to post here my questions. I know how to use kbabel or poedit, but that's about all. I would need someone to tell me what are the steps to follow to : 1) get po files updated with new strings corresponding to the added features since 3.5.10 2) update these po files in the source tree, once I've added the translated strings into them Thanks for any help, regards, Denis

Hi everyone, Still no answer, nobody can help me ? the only thing I need is updated po files for trinity 3.5.12, so that I can translate the new strings. Regards, Denis Le 17/10/2010 15:19, Denis Prost a écrit : Hi everyone, no answer, so I'm trying to find my way myself to translation process ! I tried to start with : svn import /home/denis/Bureau/trinity http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/ -m nomsg --non-interactive but got an error message : svn: Repository moved permanently to '/branches/trinity/'; please relocate I'm really new to svn, can anyone help me to find out what's happening ? Thanks, Denis Le 11/10/2010 17:13, Denis Prost a écrit : Hi everyone, this is my first post to the list. I proposed myself to translate new strings into french and Tim advised me to post here my questions. I know how to use kbabel or poedit, but that's about all. I would need someone to tell me what are the steps to follow to : 1) get po files updated with new strings corresponding to the added features since 3.5.10 2) update these po files in the source tree, once I've added the translated strings into them Thanks for any help, regards, Denis I think you should keep persisting. Translations are going to be needed.

I think you should keep persisting. Translations are going to be needed. Unfortunately I only know English, so I can't help. But keep persisting, someone will help.

So, according to that page, I ran svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/trinity ./ Now I have the latest trinity sources on my computer but still don't know what to do with them, to get the french po files updated. I don't see any Makefile somewhere with which I could run something like "make i18n" or "make po". Denis

Can the trinity developers take care of that ?

Le 25/10/2010 23:00, Robert Xu a écrit : I'm not sure I understand what you say. Do you mean adding new strings one by one by hand in the po file ? First, I might miss some new strings doing it that way. Secondly, each trinity translater will have to do that manual strings adding in his language po files. Seeing the number of languages trinity is translated into, that seems to be a terrible waste of time. A centralized process adding new strings to all po files in any languages would be a lot more efficient. I can't imagine there's no automatic way to achieve this. But unfortunately I don't know how and don't have much time to investigate. I hope someone on the list has some knowledge about that topic.

Le 26/10/2010 17:51, Robert Xu a écrit : I can't tell myself, but surely a clear translation process providing all instructions needed would help. (not forgetting that translators are just translators and may be very ignorant besides !). Regards, Denis

Le 27/10/2010 09:31, Denis Prost a écrit : As long as there is no centralized process to update the po files, I'm trying to do it myself, but I don't know enough of the development tools to achieve it. Maybe someone might help me : I'd like to run "make messages" in kdebase/kicker source directory, but there is no Makefile in it, only Makefile.am. How can I generate Makefile from it, what command should I run ? Thanks, Denis If you downloaded the tarballs, you can (for most projects) use ./configure

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 16:18, Denis Prost <denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote: I recommend asking Timothy Pearson on how to do this. You can see this: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild and it'll tell you have to run make -f admin/Makefile.common.... Then from there I suppose you could look at Makefile.in and such. -- later, Robert Xu

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Timothy Pearson &lt;kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>> wrote: &lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>> wrote: Prost&lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>> Prost&lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>> and add trinity is automatic have much about providing be very http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/kde-i18n-howt… "make new pot present tarballs : the merging files, I'm development tools directory, but http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild Sorry, I do not know how to do this either. I never was involved with the translation arm of KDE, so it's just something I never learned to do. Tim The obvious first step (after downloading and unpacking the sources, of course) is to find where the original strings are, then translate those into whatever the target locale. You'd then need to follow whatever the format for the project is in saving the translated strings into their own locale files (generally speaking). I can't be specific to any particular project, it is simply an observation that most projects keep their language files organized in a separate directory inside the sources, so I can't be specific to KDE3. -- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Wannabe Ark Linux packager

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Denis Prost &lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>> wrote: Le 31/10/2010 03:09, Kristopher Gamrat a écrit : On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Timothy Pearson &lt;kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>>> wrote: &lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr> <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>>> wrote: Prost&lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr> <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>>> Prost&lt;denis.prost(a)wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr> <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr <mailto:denis.prost@wanadoo.fr>>> and add adding new manual trinity is files in any automatic have much about providing be very http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/kde-i18n-howt… "make new pot present tarballs : the merging files, I'm development tools directory, but generate http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/wiki/bin/view/Developers/HowToBuild such. Sorry, I do not know how to do this either. I never was involved with the translation arm of KDE, so it's just something I never learned to do. Tim The obvious first step (after downloading and unpacking the sources, of course) is to find where the original strings are, then translate those into whatever the target locale. You'd then need to follow whatever the format for the project is in saving the translated strings into their own locale files (generally speaking). I can't be specific to any particular project, it is simply an observation that most projects keep their language files organized in a separate directory inside the sources, so I can't be specific to KDE3. -- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Wannabe Ark Linux packager Thanks to all of you for your answers. It seems that I have to restart from Tim HowToBuild page. But I'm stuck with /<path to your system's libool.m4 file> and //<path to your system's ltmain.sh file> /What are these files, where can I find them (locate did not find them) ? Thanks, Regards / / I think (not quite sure) they may be related to Autoconf and Automake. Make sure you have them installed, then run the updatedb command as root to update the file database for locate. From there, hopefully those files will appear. If not, post back and someone else will come to the aid.

Thanks to all of you for your answers. It seems that I have to restart from Tim HowToBuild page. But I'm stuck with /<path to your system's libool.m4 file> and //<path to your system's ltmain.sh file> /What are these files, where can I find them (locate did not find them) ? Thanks,

Hi everyone, this is my first post to the list. I proposed myself to translate new strings into french and Tim advised me to post here my questions. I know how to use kbabel or poedit, but that's about all. I would need someone to tell me what are the steps to follow to : 1) get po files updated with new strings corresponding to the added features since 3.5.10 2) update these po files in the source tree, once I've added the translated strings into them Thanks for any help, regards, Denis