Oddball request, but I need a way to crash Trinity. :) I created bug report 769 (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=769). Basically, on one particular computer I am able to get Ark to crash consistently. Yesterday I started tinkering with building my packages with separate debug packages rather than building the debugging symbols into one package. I figure outside of the devs and packagers most end-users are not interested in that support. :( Today on that same computer I installed new packages for kdelibs, kdebase, and kdeutils: six packages instead of three. Now I can't get Ark to crash. 1. I don't pretend to understand the nuances of debugging symbols, but by splitting the debug symbols into a separate package, could I have resolved the bug? Does that make sense? 2. I need a way to crash something in Trinity so I can test my split packages. I have browsed through the bugzilla and could not find anything that was repeatable here. Would someone please suggest a way to test the Dr. Konqi crash handler so I can generate a backtrace? My request is not related to point 1 above --- I just want to test whether my new package scheme is working and I need a way to verify I can generate a backtrace in Trinity. Perhaps there is a built-in easter egg or something that can do just that? Darrell