On Thursday 25 of July 2019 17:13:23 Mike Bird wrote: Hi all, I will try to summarize information on what resources we have now, what is the current status and what are the plans that we have. Although I will try to be brief, the mail will be a bit long... 1. Primary site Here are a number of services that are mostly on shared machines where only Tim can manage it and cannot give access to other admins. + web server + mailing lists + wiki + bugzilla + git repositories - SCM, CGIT + automated scripts for master branch + crashreports store + patchwork + quickbuild + archive for mirrors 2. VPS donated by vpsFree.org This VPS initially provided the mirror function for the GIT repositories and at the same time has the role of a highly optimized primary redirector for accessing the package archive. Currently, TDE Gitea Workspace (TGW) and TDE Weblate Translation Workspace (TWTW) are hosted on this VPS. As a result, VPS is now the main place where developers and other contributors work. This allows us to work on development independently on the primary site. Git repositories is now not just a mirror, but is bi-directionally synchronized with the primary site. Another thing is that a Preliminary Stable Builds (PSB) repository has existed for a long time and later a Preliminary Testing Builds (PTB) repository was created. These Debian / Devuan / Raspbian / Ubuntu repositories provide preliminery packages for stable branch as well as packages for master branch => equivalent of nightly-builds. These packages are built on builders I have in my management, completely independent of QuickBuild. These repositories are now provided primarily on this VPS. For this VPS we don't have to worry about hardware => it provides vpsFree.org. To manage system on VPS and the services we have here, it's me and Michele who can manage it. And here is no problem to add other administrators. + git repositories - CGIT + TGW - a tool for developers collaboration and manage issues + TWTW - a tool to work on translations + automated scripts for all branches + primary redirector to access the archive 3. Dedicated TDE Box donated by Integricloud Integricloud, a company associated with Tim, has provided us a dedicated hardward box on the POWER9 platform. This is a machine with very good performance. Because it's dedicated hardware, Tim, I and Michele can manage the virtual machines and services on this box. And here is no problem to add other administrators. Here is the plan that services from the primary site will be migrated to the virtual machines on this box. We are currently preparing virtual machines on this box. However, for the migration plan and migration work we will again need participation from Tim, who has been busy for a long time. And unfortunately for some time again is not contact with him. 4. Plans for the future Because problems on the primary site combined with Tim's unavailability are not here for the first time, we have been working for a long time to setup alternative services to minimize dependence on the primary site. Currently we are ready to be independent on the primary site for services: + web server + mailing lists + git repositories - CGIT, TGW, TWTW + automated scripts for all branches + repository and builders - PSB, PTB + archive for mirrors - reorganized structure, cleaning done, added missing things, for example source tarballs for R14.0.6 are here Thanks to the TDE box donated by Integricloud and VPS donated by vpsFree.org, we currently have good resources to provide services availability. What needs to be solved is to prepare a migration plan and then migrate the services. I propose that we can gradually discuss individual services to be migrated here and prepare a migration plan. Cheers

Michele Calgaro via trinity-devel wrote: I was thinking that someone else can do this work and the team can grow, because Slavek already does so much. If he has the time and wants to do it, I agree, there is no one better. But more people do more work more efficiently hopefully. regards

On 2019/07/26 02:48 AM, Sl?vek Banko wrote: Dear all, in addition to Slavek's excellent description of the current hardware/services situation, I would like to add one more thing. I believe a project leader should be actively involved with the project he/she is leading, possibly daily or at least weekly. I share Mike's huge respect for Tim's work and for what he has done for TDE, but it is a fact that in the last 3 or 4 years Tim has seldom interacted or followed TDE. I think the time is ripe to propose a change in project leadership and I would like to put forward Slavek as candidate to such role. Slavek has been doing a great job for TDE since the time he joined the project and he has been contributing daily for many many years by now. Please don't be shy and let us know your opinion on this point. Once again, huge respect for Tim and for what he has done for TDE :-) Cheers Michele --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

I believe a project leader should be actively involved with the project he/she is leading, possibly daily or at least weekly. I share Mike's huge respect for Tim's work and for what he has done for TDE, but it is a fact that in the last 3 or 4 years Tim has seldom interacted or followed TDE. I think the time is ripe to propose a change in project leadership and I would like to put forward Slavek as candidate to such role. Slavek has been doing a great job for TDE since the time he joined the project and he has been contributing daily for many many years by now.

Please don't be shy and let us know your opinion on this point. Once again, huge respect for Tim and for what he has done for TDE :-)

Dear all, in addition to Slavek's excellent description of the current hardware/services situation, I would like to add one more thing. I believe a project leader should be actively involved with the project he/she is leading, possibly daily or at least weekly. I share Mike's huge respect for Tim's work and for what he has done for TDE, but it is a fact that in the last 3 or 4 years Tim has seldom interacted or followed TDE. I think the time is ripe to propose a change in project leadership and I would like to put forward Slavek as candidate to such role. Slavek has been doing a great job for TDE since the time he joined the project and he has been contributing daily for many many years by now. Please don't be shy and let us know your opinion on this point. Once again, huge respect for Tim and for what he has done for TDE :-) Cheers   Michele

Thank you very much, Sl??vek! Your work and endeavours (and everyone else's, too, of course) are much appreciated. Kind regards, Stefan

Due to my involvement in both projects, I was able to pull some strings at Integricloud [2] and get a dedicated, powerful server permanently dedicated to the TDE project. This dedicated box is the server that I am working with Slavek to port the existing TDE data and functions to; as a self-contained unit managed by an external cloud provider service availability and connectivity should be excellent, and the horsepower of the box is sufficient to even be able to run builds on if desired.