19 Sep
2012
19 Sep
'12
5:35 p.m.
Hello
In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my experiences with TDE starting
from a clean install of Debian Squeeze minimal (within X) from the viewpoint
of a Spanish desktop user. The problems, pitfalls or things I've found are
improving (I report all as bugs in the bug tracker to be systematic):
1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages without much problem,
I think there are collaborators with enough time and desire to make it viable.
A call to collaborators through the mailing list to create working groups could
be. I offer to help as Spanish-spoken.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220
2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
* Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by default, like most
distros.
If you're a newbie and follow to the letter the instructions, the lines with
"sudo" not work
* Lack reference to the translation packages, example "For Spanish translate,
apt-get install kde-trinity-i18n-es"
* For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it shoul be indicate in the
intructions as "if you have a laptop..." or similar.
* A graphical network manager as network-manager-kde-trinity is very util, it
shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you want to have a graphical network
manager and you are not using a other as wicd, you..." or similar. May notice
about network-manager versions incompatible with network-manager-kde-trinity.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221
3. Applications of interest:
* Kmix should be in the System Tray.
I don't report, I think is reported in
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503
* IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the default TDE installation,
are useful for the general public.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
4. Kpersonalizer:
* Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the windows or close/maximize
/minimize buttons.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223
* Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having chosen Spanish. I can
help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
* Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in Kpersonalizer. I have
to do KControl > Keyboard Layout > Enable keyboard layout & Show indicator for
single layout.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224
5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a complete Spanish translations.
For example, "Hibernate computer" and "Suspend computer" in the
"End session"
window.
I can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
6. KDM problems:
* KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen. I think I solved
it with KControl > System admin > Login manager > Apparance > Compositor:
Trinity
compositor. If choosing Trinity Compositor solve the problem, the package
should be reconfigured to do it by default.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226
* "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't
work, just a
black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-F6, the KDM
window is visible very briefly. I read something similar, related with graphic
card (this is a Nvidia, and use the nouveau driver), I don't know. Related:
In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD distro with TDE as desktop environment:
* In a live session, if you choose "Change session" in the TDE exit dialog,
you find a KDM login window answer you about user name and password - could be
auto-restart
the TDE desktop
* In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window option "Reboot" don't
work,
the system stays in terminal login (you can insert your user name and password,
and the
system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx" :P )
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227
Possible related with
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59
and
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419
7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of Kubuntu references",
http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9879 ) I did a review of the
problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences dragged by TDE project, as
sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE 3.5 original. A set of new
sudo-related bugs:
* Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser > Konsole: a Konsole window
appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a Debian (no-sudo) system,
therefore neither user password (user is not in /etc/sudoers) neither root
password (demand sudo) work. Konqueror as root in the "T > System >
SuperUser"
dialog works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228
* In T > System, other applications as KPackage open, but for a action ask for
"SUDO password", and again neither user password neither root password work.
But KUser in T > System work well with root password.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229
* I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System don't work to enter the root
password. Synaptic via "Run command" answer "KDEInit could not launch
'su-to-root': could not find 'su-to-root' executable". However,
"kdesu synaptic"
works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230
8. I suggest the following changes in file associations (in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Thanks!
19 Sep
19 Sep
10:33 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:35:30 +0100 (BST)
Alexis PM <alexispm_stellaluna(a)yahoo.es> wrote:
8. I suggest the following changes in file
associations (in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Iceweasel is 1. not part of Trinity and 2. only available on Debian-descended
distros--most others offer Firefox with the default branding (it would also be
possible for a distro to support only Chrome/Chromium or even Opera, although
I'm not aware of any that does). The only browser we can guarantee will be
present when Trinity is installed is Konqueror, because Trinity puts it there.
So while I can see why a different default might be desirable for an end-user,
this is the sort of thing that should be relegated to a distro-specific patch.
11:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
On 19 September 2012 18:33, E. Liddell <ejlddll(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:35:30 +0100 (BST)
Alexis PM <alexispm_stellaluna(a)yahoo.es> wrote:
man xdg-open
8. I suggest the following changes in file
associations (in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Iceweasel is 1. not part of Trinity and 2. only available on Debian-descended
distros--most others offer Firefox with the default branding (it would also be
possible for a distro to support only Chrome/Chromium or even Opera, although
I'm not aware of any that does). The only browser we can guarantee will be
present when Trinity is installed is Konqueror, because Trinity puts it there.
So while I can see why a different default might be desirable for an end-user,
this is the sort of thing that should be relegated to a distro-specific patch.
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20 Sep
5:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
On Wednesday 19 of September 2012 19:35:30 Alexis PM wrote:
Hello
In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my experiences with TDE
starting from a clean install of Debian Squeeze minimal (within X) from the
viewpoint of a Spanish desktop user. The problems, pitfalls or things I've
found are improving (I report all as bugs in the bug tracker to be
systematic):
1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages without
much problem, I think there are collaborators with enough time and desire
to make it viable. A call to collaborators through the mailing list to
create working groups could be. I offer to help as Spanish-spoken.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220
2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
* Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by default, like
most
distros. If you're a newbie and follow to the letter the instructions, the
lines with "sudo" not work
* Lack reference to the translation packages, example "For Spanish
translate, apt-get install kde-trinity-i18n-es"
* For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it shoul be indicate in the
intructions as "if you have a laptop..." or similar.
* A graphical network manager as network-manager-kde-trinity is very util,
it shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you want to have a graphical
network manager and you are not using a other as wicd, you..." or similar.
May notice about network-manager versions incompatible with
network-manager-kde-trinity.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221
3. Applications of interest:
* Kmix should be in the System Tray.
I don't report, I think is reported in
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503
* IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the default TDE
installation, are useful for the general public.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
4. Kpersonalizer:
* Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the windows or
close/maximize /minimize buttons.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223
* Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having chosen Spanish. I
can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
* Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in Kpersonalizer. I
have to do KControl > Keyboard Layout > Enable keyboard layout & Show
indicator for single layout.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224
5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a complete Spanish
translations. For example, "Hibernate computer" and "Suspend
computer" in
the "End session" window.
I can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
6. KDM problems:
* KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen. I think I
solved it with KControl > System admin > Login manager > Apparance >
Compositor: Trinity compositor. If choosing Trinity Compositor solve the
problem, the package should be reconfigured to do it by default.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226
* "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't
work, just a
black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-F6, the
KDM window is visible very briefly. I read something similar, related with
graphic card (this is a Nvidia, and use the nouveau driver), I don't know.
Related: In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD distro with TDE as desktop
environment: * In a live session, if you choose "Change session" in the TDE
exit dialog, you find a KDM login window answer you about user name and
password - could be auto-restart
the TDE desktop
* In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window option "Reboot" don't
work, the system stays in terminal login (you can insert your user name and
password, and the
system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx" :P )
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227
Possible related with
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59
and
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419
7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of Kubuntu references",
http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9879 ) I did a review of the
problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences dragged by TDE project, as
sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE 3.5 original. A set of new
sudo-related bugs:
* Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser > Konsole: a Konsole window
appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a Debian (no-sudo)
system, therefore neither user password (user is not in /etc/sudoers)
neither root password (demand sudo) work. Konqueror as root in the "T >
System > SuperUser" dialog works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228
* In T > System, other applications as KPackage open, but for a action ask
for "SUDO password", and again neither user password neither root password
work. But KUser in T > System work well with root password.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229
* I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System don't work to enter the
root password. Synaptic via "Run command" answer "KDEInit could not
launch
'su-to-root': could not find 'su-to-root' executable". However,
"kdesu
synaptic" works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230
8. I suggest the following changes in file associations (in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Thanks!
Alexis,
Thank you for your detailed research. I believe that you will find some of
these problems resolved in upcoming release 3.5.13.1. Issues that remain
unresolved in 3.5.13.1, we leave to solution later - they will not block
release 3.5.13.1.
I am glad for your interest in translations to Spanish. Do you think you
managed to get one more volunteer with whom you could revise translations of
each other?
Thank you for your efforts, interest
and look forward to further cooperation.
Slávek
--
11:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
De: Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz>
Asunto: Re: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE
improvements
Para: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Fecha: jueves, 20 de septiembre, 2012 19:05
On Wednesday 19 of September 2012
19:35:30 Alexis PM wrote:
Slávek,
Thank you very much for your words and interest for improvement the project. My only
intention with this constructive criticism to help improve TDE.
I upgrade TDE 3.5.3 to 3.5.13.1 (via repo: deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu squeeze
main). Few bugs have been fixed (4a - Keramic theme), others unfortunately remain the same
(as all su/sudo bugs: Konsole as SuperUser, Kpackage, Synaptic), and others have appeared
(turn-off and restart http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1233 and
KDM Ctrl+Alt+Del http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 ). Your
work with the repo is good, you just have to improve some aspects.
I want to help TDE, because I think KDE-3 was the best desktop of all. My contributions
are limited to bug-hunter and translator. I like to help with the translation into
Spanish... where to start?
Thanks!
Hello
In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my
experiences with TDE
starting from a clean install of Debian Squeeze
minimal
(within X) from the
viewpoint of a Spanish desktop user. The
problems,
pitfalls or things I've
found are improving (I report all as bugs in the
bug
tracker to be
systematic):
1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several
languages without
much problem, I think there are collaborators
with
enough time and desire
to make it viable. A call to collaborators
through the
mailing list to
create working groups could be. I offer to help
as
Spanish-spoken.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220
2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
* Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by
default,
like most
distros. If you're a newbie and follow to the
letter
the instructions, the
lines with "sudo" not work
* Lack reference to the translation packages, example
"For Spanish
translate, apt-get install
kde-trinity-i18n-es"
* For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it
shoul be indicate in the
intructions as "if you have a
laptop..." or similar.
* A graphical network manager as
network-manager-kde-trinity is very util,
it shoul be indicate in the intructions as
"if you want
to have a graphical
network manager and you are not using a other as
wicd,
you..." or similar.
May notice about network-manager versions
incompatible
with
network-manager-kde-trinity.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221
3. Applications of interest:
* Kmix should be in the System Tray.
I don't report, I think is reported in
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503
* IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the
default TDE
installation, are useful for the general public.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
4. Kpersonalizer:
* Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the
windows or
close/maximize /minimize buttons.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223
* Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having
chosen Spanish. I
can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
* Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in
Kpersonalizer. I
have to do KControl > Keyboard Layout >
Enable
keyboard layout & Show
indicator for single layout.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224
5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a
complete Spanish
translations. For example, "Hibernate
computer" and
"Suspend computer" in
the "End session" window.
I can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
6. KDM problems:
* KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be
seen. I think I
solved it with KControl > System admin >
Login
manager > Apparance >
Compositor: Trinity compositor. If choosing
Trinity
Compositor solve the
problem, the package should be reconfigured to
do
it by default.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226
* "Finish actual session" in "End session" window
dialog
don't work, just a
black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing
Ctrl-Alt-F1
& Ctrl-Alt-F6, the
KDM window is visible very briefly. I read
something
similar, related with
graphic card (this is a Nvidia, and use the
nouveau
driver), I don't know.
Related: In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD
distro with
TDE as desktop
environment: * In a live session, if you choose
"Change
session" in the TDE
exit dialog, you find a KDM login window answer
you
about user name and
password - could be auto-restart
the TDE desktop
* In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window
option "Reboot"
don't
work, the system stays in terminal login (you can
insert your user name and
password, and the
system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx"
:P )
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227
Possible related with
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59
and
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419
7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of
Kubuntu references",
did a review of the
problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences
dragged
by TDE project, as
sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE
3.5
original. A set of new
sudo-related bugs:
* Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser
Konsole: a Konsole window
appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a
Debian (no-sudo)
system, therefore neither user password (user is
not in
/etc/sudoers)
neither root password (demand sudo) work.
Konqueror as
root in the "T >
System > SuperUser" dialog works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228
* In T > System, other applications as KPackage
open, but for a action ask
for "SUDO password", and again neither
user password
neither root password
work. But KUser in T > System work well with
root
password.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229
* I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System
don't work to enter the
root password. Synaptic via "Run
command" answer
"KDEInit could not launch
'su-to-root': could not find
'su-to-root' executable".
However, "kdesu
synaptic" works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230
8. I suggest the following changes in file associations
(in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think
Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Thanks!
Alexis,
Thank you for your detailed research. I believe that you
will find some of
these problems resolved in upcoming release 3.5.13.1. Issues
that remain
unresolved in 3.5.13.1, we leave to solution later - they
will not block
release 3.5.13.1.
I am glad for your interest in translations to Spanish. Do
you think you
managed to get one more volunteer with whom you could revise
translations of
each other?
Thank you for your efforts, interest
and look forward to further cooperation.
Slávek
--
14 Nov
14 Nov
3:19 p.m.
New subject: About TDE bugs reports and the collaboration in translates
Hello
Some time ago I sent an email to the Trinity-devel list with my experiences installing TDE
in Debian Squeeze. Having passed a reasonable time, I want to stress again the importance
of paying attention to the bugs (there are several of significant importance, and one more
has been added since then, eg http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1321 and
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 ). And I want to be constructive and
I want to support improved TDE (I think that is the best of all *), again I offer my help
to fix them, as there are several issues that I can help (those related to translation
lacks into Spanish) so I would really like if are enabled channels for the participation
of collaborators in fields such as translation (I think it's necessary to ensure the
future of TDE).
Thanks!
* I'm not the only one who thinks, without going too far recently Werner Joss said in
this list: that will keep trinity as what it is today: the only lightweight, complete and
consistent desktop, which runs flawless also on outdated hardware.
--- El mié, 19/9/12, Alexis PM <alexispm_stellaluna(a)yahoo.es> escribió:
De: Alexis PM <alexispm_stellaluna(a)yahoo.es>
Asunto: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
Para: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Fecha: miércoles, 19 de septiembre, 2012 19:35
Hello
In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my experiences with TDE starting
from a clean install of Debian Squeeze minimal (within X) from the viewpoint
of a Spanish desktop user. The problems, pitfalls or things I've found are
improving (I report all as bugs in the bug tracker to be systematic):
1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages without much problem,
I think there are collaborators with enough time and desire to make it viable.
A call to collaborators through the mailing list to create working groups could
be. I offer to help as Spanish-spoken.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220
2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
* Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by default, like most
distros.
If you're a newbie and follow to the letter the instructions, the lines with
"sudo" not work
* Lack reference to the translation packages, example "For Spanish translate,
apt-get install kde-trinity-i18n-es"
* For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it shoul be indicate in the
intructions as "if you have a laptop..." or similar.
* A graphical network manager as network-manager-kde-trinity is very util, it
shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you want to have a graphical network
manager and you are not using a other as wicd, you..." or similar. May notice
about network-manager versions incompatible with network-manager-kde-trinity.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221
3. Applications of interest:
* Kmix should be in the System Tray.
I don't report, I think is reported in
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503
* IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the default TDE installation,
are useful for the general public.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
4. Kpersonalizer:
* Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the windows or close/maximize
/minimize buttons.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223
* Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having chosen Spanish. I can
help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
* Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in Kpersonalizer. I have
to do KControl > Keyboard Layout > Enable keyboard layout & Show indicator for
single layout.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224
5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a complete Spanish translations.
For example, "Hibernate computer" and "Suspend computer" in the
"End session"
window.
I can help with it.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225
6. KDM problems:
* KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen. I think I solved
it with KControl > System admin > Login manager > Apparance > Compositor:
Trinity
compositor. If choosing Trinity Compositor solve the problem, the package
should be reconfigured to do it by default.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226
* "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't
work, just a
black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-F6, the KDM
window is visible very briefly. I read something similar, related with graphic
card (this is a Nvidia, and use the nouveau driver), I don't know. Related:
In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD distro with TDE as desktop environment:
* In a live session, if you choose "Change session" in the TDE exit dialog,
you find a KDM login window answer you about user name and password - could be
auto-restart
the TDE desktop
* In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window option "Reboot" don't
work,
the system stays in terminal login (you can insert your user name and password,
and the
system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx" :P )
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227
Possible related with
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59
and
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419
7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of Kubuntu references",
http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9879 ) I did a review of the
problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences dragged by TDE project, as
sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE 3.5 original. A set of new
sudo-related bugs:
* Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser > Konsole: a Konsole window
appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a Debian (no-sudo) system,
therefore neither user password (user is not in /etc/sudoers) neither root
password (demand sudo) work. Konqueror as root in the "T > System >
SuperUser"
dialog works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228
* In T > System, other applications as KPackage open, but for a action ask for
"SUDO password", and again neither user password neither root password work.
But KUser in T > System work well with root password.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229
* I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System don't work to enter the root
password. Synaptic via "Run command" answer "KDEInit could not launch
'su-to-root': could not find 'su-to-root' executable". However,
"kdesu synaptic"
works well.
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230
8. I suggest the following changes in file associations (in Konqueror:
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231
Thanks!
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9:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] About TDE bugs reports and the collaboration in translates
Some time ago I sent an email to the Trinity-devel
list with my experiences installing TDE in
Debian Squeeze. Having passed a reasonable time, I want to stress again
the importance of paying attention to the bugs (there are several of significant
importance, and one more has been added since then,eg
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1321 and
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1232).
And I want to be constructive and I want to support improved TDE (I
think that is the best of all *), again I offer my help to fix them,
as there are several issues that I can help (those related to translation lacks into
Spanish)
so I would really like if are enabled channels for the participation of
collaborators in fields such as translation (I think it's necessary to ensure the
future of TDE).
Bugs are bugs. They will be resolved eventually. :) Translations are a different topic.
A serious challenge we have at the moment is we don't have any how-to or guide to help
people translate text. There are two primary file types containing translations: po and
docbook files. Each file type needs attention.
Another challenge is all original text is written in English. A translator therefore needs
a good grasp of English as well as his or her native language. Yet even with that grasp,
somebody with a native English background should be available to help or mentor
translators to ensure context is translated correctly because not all non-native English
speakers will understand context correctly.
Another challenge for anybody trying to update these files is not speaking the other
languages. When I update these file types with simple updates, such as converting
instances of kde -> tde, I have no way to know whether the changes I make are good or
whether I introduced incorrect translations. I have to be very careful when making such
changes such that I don't perform a massive global search-and-replace that modifies
text within other text strings that should not be changed. I have seen this happen often
with other patches.
In the end, somebody native to each language has to review all texts and be willing and
able to offer changes. They don't have to offer patches, just text files of what to
change. Somebody else can convert the changes to a patch.
To start all of this, we really need a basic guide at the wiki to help translators.
Darrell
15 Nov
15 Nov
7:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] About TDE bugs reports and the collaboration in translates
2012/11/15 Darrell Anderson <humanreadable(a)yahoo.com>
Bugs are bugs. They will be resolved eventually. :)
Translations are a
different topic.
A serious challenge we have at the moment is we don't have any how-to or
guide to help people translate text. There are two primary file types
containing translations: po and docbook files. Each file type needs
attention.
Another challenge is all original text is written in English. A translator
therefore needs a good grasp of English as well as his or her native
language. Yet even with that grasp, somebody with a native English
background should be available to help or mentor translators to ensure
context is translated correctly because not all non-native English speakers
will understand context correctly.
Another challenge for anybody trying to update these files is not speaking
the other languages. When I update these file types with simple updates,
such as converting instances of kde -> tde, I have no way to know whether
the changes I make are good or whether I introduced incorrect translations.
I have to be very careful when making such changes such that I don't
perform a massive global search-and-replace that modifies text within other
text strings that should not be changed. I have seen this happen often with
other patches.
In the end, somebody native to each language has to review all texts and
be willing and able to offer changes. They don't have to offer patches,
just text files of what to change. Somebody else can convert the changes to
a patch.
To start all of this, we really need a basic guide at the wiki to help
translators.
One more issue about i18n packages:
can you provide a separate packages and git reposetories for each
translation?
A monolithic overlay is over 2Gb and release package is over 500M... It's
too heavy if you don't need them all...
6:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] About TDE bugs reports and the collaboration in translates
A monolithic overlay is over 2Gb and release
package is over 500M... It's too heavy if you don't
need them all...
I like idea. I dislike patching tde-i18n files. On the other hand, the types of patches I
do are generic and affect all files, such as updating kde -> tde. In such cases
applying simple text replacement patches like that would be a chore because then there
would be one commit per language. Ouch. I don't know a good solution.
At the other end of the spectrum, downloading localization files should _not_ be a chore.
Packagers should be creating only one package per language.
Darrell
8:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] About TDE bugs reports and the collaboration in translates
2012/11/15 Darrell Anderson <humanreadable(a)yahoo.com>
nope, you can just add a kde-i18n witch contains all languages as
submodules.
A monolithic
overlay is over 2Gb and release
package is over 500M... It's too heavy if you don't
need them all...
I like idea. I dislike patching tde-i18n files. On the other hand, the
types of patches I do are generic and affect all files, such as updating
kde -> tde. In such cases applying simple text replacement patches like
that would be a chore because then there would be one commit per language.
Ouch. I don't know a good solution.
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