Hi all!
I am an Arch user on an old but fine 64-bit machine from about 2008.
And that's one reason I might prefer TDE over mainstream Plasma/KDE,
because it's probably much lighter on resources and has less
overhead and dependencies.
And since I am also a fan of the tiling WM XMonad, I want to make
work both of them together; let's see if it's going to be XMonad
inside TDE, or XMonad along with Trinity's KDE 3.5 apps. And I'm
pretty sure they'll make a good team!
Currently, I have disabled Plasma and simply run XMonad in EMWH
desktop compliant mode (i.e. no KDE/Plasma) invoking single KDE
apps, designed by GTK or GTK/Qt styles, and using alternative status
bars. The virtual desktops are managed by "pcmanfm --desktop";
compositor is xcompmgr (or betimes compton, the legacy version of
picom).
That's my status quo. Soon, I am about to get rid of all of "modern"
KDE, Plasma, and Qt5/6 stuff – prior to installing TDE's binaries!
These are my prime resources of knowledge:
[
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Trinity#Binary_packages ]
[
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unofficial_user_repositories#trinity ]
[
http://trinitydesktop.org/ ]
[
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.11 ]
Yet there are still a couple of issues and questions:
(1) Failure of the Trinity repo integration
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I followed the Arch wiki's instructions for adding key and repo.
$ sudo -i
# pacman-key --recv-keys 0x8685AD8B
gpg: key C93AF1698685AD8B: public key "Trinity Desktop Environment
Archive Signing Key" imported
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 786C63F330D7CB92: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 1EB2638FF56C0C53: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: key 1EB2638FF56C0C53: no user ID for key signature packet of
class 10
gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: pgp
gpg: depth: 0 valid: 1 signed: 7 trusted: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f,
1u
gpg: depth: 1 valid: 7 signed: 83 trusted: 1-, 0q, 0n, 6m, 0f,
0u
gpg: depth: 2 valid: 79 signed: 26 trusted: 79-, 0q, 0n, 0m,
0f, 0u
gpg: next "Trust-DB" validation on 2022-01-20
gpg: total number of keys processeed: 1
gpg: imported: 1
# joe /etc/pacman.conf
...
[trinity]
Server = https://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/archlinux
...
Updating the system then fails:
# pacman -Syu
error: trinity: signature from "Trinity Desktop Environment Archive
Signing Key" is unknown trust
error: failed to synchronize all databases (invalid or corrupted
database (PGP signature))
Well, I mean there are "trusted: 79-" = 79 dis-trusted keys and no
user IDs..?
So I wonder if there are any changes, or if the provided gpg key
(and Arch's wiki) is outdated, and would like to ask for the latest
valid one.
(2) KDE 3.5 virtual desktop management
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I am also a fan of different wallpapers for the virtual desktops,
"pcmanfm --desktop" can do that! – So, is KDE 3.5 able to create
individual workspaces?
If yes, I am probably going to run XMonad inside KDE with the
"kdeConfig" module; c.f.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xmonad#KDE_and_xmonad
https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_KDE
If no, I will first also trying to do the latter AND to load
"pcmanfm --desktop" with a certain delay. – Or, I dispense with the
KDE desktop and just run KDE apps.
An example: As in [
http://trinitydesktop.org/faq/desktop.php#idm140487998295328 ],
does something like
kstart --desktop 1 --activate --window "feh-bg1" 'feh --bg-scale
/path/to/image1.file'
kstart --desktop 2 --activate --window "feh-bg2" 'feh --bg-scale
/path/to/image2.file'
work (to have different walls on desktop #1 and #2)?
(3) Conflicts with official Arch KDE/Plasma stuff?
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I wonder if there aren't any problems having both modern
KDE/Plasma/Qt and Trinity's KDE 3.5/Qt packages in parallel? I don't
intend to and would like to stay with pure Trinity stuff – but
couldn't this happen by accident though: interfering dependency
conflicts, or double versions of KDE apps?
Thanks in advance!
Mike