On Sunday, 13 June 2021, 23:08:08 BST, Borg Labs <borglabs4@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday 12 June 2021 03:30:41 pm dep via tde-users wrote:
> said Borg Labs:
> | On Friday 11 June 2021 06:12:25 pm dep wrote:
> | > said Nick Koretsky:
> | > | On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:45:12 -0500
> | > |
> | > | Michael <mb_trinity_desktop@inet-design.com> wrote:
> | > | > On Friday 11 June 2021 02:12:48 pm dep wrote:
> | > | > > Nor is there any place I can find a simple file that contains
> | > | > > all the entries in one's KMenu, such that one might rearrange
> | > | > > them by hand. It is surely stored someplace, but I cannot find
> | > | > > it. It ought to be able to be opened in a spreadsheet such that
> | > | > > the order could be altered with a click.
> | > | >
> | > | > Okay, this will suck...
> | > | >
> | > | > - Open a command prompt
> | > | > - Do nothing for more than 1 minute...
> | > | > - Edit something in KMenu
> | > | > - Then run these two commands
> | > | >
> | > | > # find / -newerct $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f
> | > | > # find / -newermt $(date +%Y-%m-%d -d '1 min ago') -type f
> | > | >
> | > | > The first does "Change" time, the second does "Create" time.
> | > | >
> | > | > And you *should*! be able to find where KMenu stores it changes
> | > | > in...
> | > |
> | > | This will not help. There is
> | > | .config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu but it only contains
> | > | manually edited things.
> | > | AFAIK the actual menu is assembled in memory from .desktop files
> | >
> | > A glance at it suggests that it includes lots of things that I didn't
> | > add manually. But it would also be a huge headache to try to edit it
> | > into any kind of order.
> | >
> | > Still, it's more than nothing. I just see no obvious way, other than
> | > cut'n'paste in a text editor, to manipulate it.
> | >
> | > Am I the only one who finds KMenu troublesome?
> | > --
> | > dep
> |
> | ME!
> |
> | Which is why, since they went xml or whatever, I've been creating my own
> | menus.
> |
> | What I do, is create a dir called "system" in my user dir
> | then add 'kmenu"
> | I give the dir a hidden icon, setup the .directory file.
> | Submenus, and desktop items.
> |
> | I then add them as quick browsers to kicker.
> |
> | I use kbfx as a main menu (thank you Ali) search function to find items
> | I want and copy them to the appropriate submenu in my custom kmenu.
> |
> | The kids love the "penguin menu" where all the most used items are.
> |
> | This can easily be customized using drag and drop and text editors.
> |
> | I also create a custom menu using keditmenu to add items I want to have
> | keyboard hot keys.
> |
> | A few steps but once it's done you can back it up, add, subtract items
> | etc. Been doing it since 3.5.
>
> I've just downloaded and installed kbfx, but I can't make heads or tails of
> it. In fact, all that I can see that got installed was a configuration
> application that is heavy on themes -- yuck -- and light on how to use the
> thing. In fact, I can't find how to start the thing at all.
>
> What I'm trying to achieve here is a menu that lists applications of my
> choosing in categories of my choosing in an order of my choosing, which
> would be alphabetical. I cannot imagine that this would be particularly
> complicated, but it apparently is. One of the reasons I abandoned KDE
> after 3.5 is that it seemed that people were engaging in Dickensian
> programming. (Charles Dickens was paid by the word, which is why his
> newspaper serials and resulting books are so long and complicated. If he
> had been paid by the job, they would have been shorter, less complicated,
> and generally better, I think.)
>
> It needn't look any different from the regular KMenu. I just want to be
> able to populate it in my own fashion. No one else needs to like it,
> because no one else will ever see it.
>
> I'm given to understand -- thanks, Kate! -- that kbfx somehow will allow
> this, but its configuration program is solely about how it looks, not what
> it contains. Nor does it specify how to start the damned thing. What's the
> command to open kbfx?
> --
It's an applet. Unlock kicker. Choose "add applet to panel"
If kbfx is installed, it will appear on the list.