Felix thanks for the links, excellent reading and very informative but again personal opinion is rife in the first one. The second one is much better and does discuss some technical issues of systemd. The problem for me is if systemd is a problem why is Linus allowing it? Why are greater technical minds letting it take over if it is the problem people say it is?

I remember the kernel crashing issue and I, still to this day, believe systemd highlighted a problem with the kernel itself. T Ts'o even suggested in the kernel mailing list that the kernel has a problem in that it could not do what it was supposed to do and systemd highlighted it. Yes systemd caused a problem and yes the Lennart and Co should have acknowledged it and fixed it but everyone involved (not just T Ts'o) should have recognised the kernel had a problem as well. The reason I remember that issue is the discussion surrounding it on LQ was where I was told to "choose sides and be judged". Everyone bar a few who didn't get emotional recognised the kernel had a bug and systemd highlighted it, everyone bar a few who didn't get emotional failed to see that both sides in that problem refused to fix a bug in their code.