>list.

>Sorry, but webmail seems to be allergic to mailing lists.

>>You have told us that you have used "sudo -E ..." although you haven't
>>told us why you used "-E".  What "-E" does is run as root but on your
>>own home folder, not root's.  This can easily leave stuff in your home
>>folder which is owned by root and cannot be handled by your regular

>>user account and that can cause all kinds of breakage.  You might be
>>able to fix it with something like "chown -R ..." and "chgrp -R ..."
>>but that might make things worse.

>I'm well aware of that, but since wheezy to now, it was required because root had no

>permissions to use the users xwindows. So if I wanted to run synaptic, I had to use the -E.

>There was no other choice till now.  If I don't need it now, and apparently I don't, the >biggest pain in the ass ever has finally been fixed after at least 4 major debian updates

>but now I'll have to learn to "sudo chown -R gene:gene /absolute/path" else I change

>root's account with a * in place of the /absolute/path. Based on you statement, I just went

>to a buster install and typed "sudo synaptic", and it worked on an xfce4 system, so that

>was silently fixed, but I had to use -E on wheezy,jessie,and stretch.

>And maybe I just found another oddity. The /root directory is empty. I thought it would

>have at least a copy of skel in it. Is that a product of using a no root login but sudo style?

When I was able to get to a terminal, an ls -la showed around a dozen .something files,

so its not quite empty.

So, why do I lose sudo when I use tdm-trinity? Or lightdm?

Thanks Gene