Hi,

lets say we have an environment that starts the software out of a perl script that guarantees that all the settings which I tested first in the konsole are working the same.

With all three, .xinitrc, perl-script and manually setting in a bash-session I get the same behaviour.

I expect something is missing.

in tdebase I changed the options like this:

##### optional stuff ############################

option( WITH_ALL_OPTIONS "Enable all optional support" OFF )
option( WITH_SASL "Enable SASL support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_LDAP "Enable LDAP support" ON )
option( WITH_SAMBA "Enable SAMBA support" ON )
option( WITH_OPENEXR "Enable openexr support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XCOMPOSITE "Enable xcomposite support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XCURSOR "Enable xcursor support" ON )
option( WITH_XFIXES "Enable xfixes support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XRANDR "Enable xrandr support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XRENDER "Enable xrender support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_LIBCONFIG "Enable libconfig support" OFF )
option( WITH_PCRE "Enable pcre regex support" ON )
option( WITH_XTEST "Enable xtest support" ON )
option( WITH_OPENGL "Enable openGL support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XSCREENSAVER "Enable xscreensaver support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_LIBART "Enable libart support (for SVG icons and wallpapers)" OFF )
option( WITH_LIBUSB "Enable control of some mouse models through libusb" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_LIBRAW1394 "Enable visualization of ieee1394 devices through libraw1394" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_SUDO_TDESU_BACKEND "Use sudo as backend for tdesu (default is su)" OFF )
option( WITH_SUDO_KONSOLE_SUPER_USER_COMMAND "Use sudo when launching Konsole super user sessions (default is su)" OFF )
option( WITH_PAM "tdm should use PAM" ON )
option( WITH_SHADOW "tdm should use shadow passwords" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XDMCP "xdmcp support for tdm" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_XINERAMA "Enable xinerama extension support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_ARTS "Enable aRts support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_I8K "Enable Dell laptop support (ksysguard)" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_SENSORS "Enable lm_sensors support (ksysguard)" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_HAL "Enable HAL support" OFF )
option( WITH_TDEHWLIB "Enable TDE hardware library support" ON )
option( WITH_UPOWER "Enable UPOWER support" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )
option( WITH_ELFICON "Enable ELF embedded metadata support" OFF )
option( WITH_GCC_VISIBILITY "Enable fvisibility and fvisibility-inlines-hidden" ${WITH_ALL_OPTIONS} )

something missing?

Alex

Am Di., 31. Aug. 2021 um 14:33 Uhr schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office@klepp.biz>:
Hi!

Anno domini 2021 Tue, 31 Aug 13:19:39 +0200
 Bruns, Alexander via tde-users scripsit:
> Hi,
>
> thx for your answer.
>
> It works for the KDE4-aplications of konqueror and dolphin, which are also
> not integrated with gnome.
>
> If I try to set the file-association or edit with kmenuedit, I get this as
> error:
>
> [2021/08/31 13:17:14.774] [tdebuildsycoca] Reusing existing tdesycoca.
> [2021/08/31 13:17:15.129] [tdebuildsycoca] ERROR: tde-applications.menu not
> found in (/home/xxxxx/.config/menus/)
>
> Is there any tool to run to initiate the configs for my homedirectory for
> tde?
>
> Is there any application which needs to be installed on top of tdebase?

KDE4 is a different kind of beast. Did you build it on your own or use a precompiled package?

It is not clear to me wether you managed to set up a working tde environment or not. If you follow the steps from yesterday (set environment, start tdeinit ...) then this is only valid in the context of the console/bash session you used to set up the environment, not ouside of it. It's also not clear if your DE uses .xsessionrc or .xinitrc so that you can set environment variables valid for your Xorg session. Can you please check that first?

Nik

>
> Alex
>
> Am Mo., 30. Aug. 2021 um 18:10 Uhr schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <
> office@klepp.biz>:
>
> > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 17:30:27 +0200
> >  Bruns, Alexander via tde-users scripsit:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > thx for the reply.
> > >
> > > I do not understand
> > >
> > > export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity
> > >
> > > why to set that? standard user will not be able to access root home
> > folder
> > > ;-)
> >
> > When you use "kcontrol" and enter "system admistration mode" tde gets the
> > settings (theme, fonts ...) from this directory. You can put it anywhere
> > you like, but don't use your users .trinity/ 'cause the files will most
> > likely be owned by root - which can have funny sideeffects :)
> >
> > But you could try to outsmart GNOME with .xinitrc - if xinit is used to
> > start your session.
> >
> > Nik
> >
> >
> >
> > > I set all to where I installed trinity but still the remembering of file
> > > associations is not working.
> > >
> > > Anyway also before without these additional settings the bookmarks I set
> > > are remembereit so ~/.trinity/ seems to be used.
> > >
> > > How Do I setup the file name/type recognition ot open txt-files with the
> > > preferred editor as before.
> > >
> > > Also all applications are missing and not visible.
> >
> > Sure, GNOMEish desktops hate everything non-GNOMEish. The fileassociations
> > will not work, even when set from the TDE context, 'cause GNOMEs
> > xdg-settings are used. You'll need to figure out how to persuade GNOME to
> > value TDE ... which could be challenging.
> >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 30. Aug. 2021 um 17:15 Uhr schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <
> > > office@klepp.biz>:
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Then you'll need to do some black magic to get TDE applications to
> > work.
> > > > Put this inside your .xsessionrc so that it's executed on session
> > init. For
> > > > testing you can execute it in your console, but you'll need to start
> > > > "konqueror" from that console, too:
> > > >
> > > > # TDE Compatibility :-)
> > > > export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false
> > > > export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
> > > > export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity
> > > > export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID
> > > > export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false
> > > > export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity
> > > > export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg
> > > > export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
> > > > tdeinit_shutdown
> > > > tdeinit
> > > > # now run your application
> > > >
> > > > On session exit please shut down tde, too:
> > > >
> > > > tdeinit_shutdown
> > > >
> > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 16:55:50 +0200
> > > >  Bruns, Alexander via tde-users scripsit:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > no on our RHEL-desktop we cannot change the window-manager. We have a
> > > > > gnome-classic configured for the users. And cannot change that.
> > > > >
> > > > > But inside that we can run additional software like the KDE4-version
> > of
> > > > > dolphin/konqueror.
> > > > >
> > > > > And I now added the basic-part of TDE. But no session as
> > Window-Manager
> > > > > replacement.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexander
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mo., 30. Aug. 2021 um 16:51 Uhr schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <
> > > > > office@klepp.biz>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 30 Aug 16:09:19 +0200
> > > > > >  Bruns, Alexander via tde-users scripsit:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I managed to compile tdebase with the described dependencies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I get konqueror working but I am missing two items.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1st I see in Settings -> Configure Konqueror noting:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [image: image.png]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2nd when I edit a file and I click here on "Remember" konqueror
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > > > remember:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [image: image.png]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas what is missing? Is there a compile option to activate
> > in
> > > > > > CMAKE?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess you are not running konqueror inside a TDE session, do you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards
> > > > > > >
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