15 Aug
2021
15 Aug
'21
8:59 p.m.
After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I
lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever
Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login
manager back.
~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was
binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but
not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted
to remove numerous Trinity packages.
Is there a fix for these issues??
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
15 Aug
15 Aug
9:03 p.m.
On 8/15/21 4:59 PM, Edward wrote:
After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two
systems, upon reboot, I
lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever
Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login
manager back.
After reinstalling tdm-trinity:
~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was
binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed,
but not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also
wanted to remove numerous Trinity packages.
Is there a fix for these issues?? Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 416256 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
.../tdm-trinity_4%3a14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking tdm-trinity (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) over
(4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) ...
Setting up tdm-trinity (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0) ...
tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ...
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TDE: R14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
9:15 p.m.
said Edward:
| After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I
| lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever
| Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login
| manager back.
|
| > ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
| > tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
|
| Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was
| binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but
| not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted
| to remove numerous Trinity packages.
|
| Is there a fix for these issues??
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
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9:29 p.m.
On 8/15/21 5:15 PM, dep wrote:
said Edward:
| After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two systems, upon reboot, I
| lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever
| Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login
| manager back.
|
| > ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
| > tdm.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
|
| Also...during the upgrade, one of the packages it wanted to remove was
| binutils, which it did. It left a package binutils-common installed, but
| not upgraded. If I attempted to remove binutils-common, it also wanted
| to remove numerous Trinity packages.
|
| Is there a fix for these issues??
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
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dep
sddm was the other display manager installed.
I found instructions at
https://linuxhint.com/change-display-manager-debian-linux/ using the
command to configure sddm, allowed me to select between it and
tdm-trinity as the display manager. Upon a reboot afterwards (both
systems), the Trinity Display Manager now successfully comes up.
The binutils issue remains, if I attempt to install it along with one
missing dependency through the command line, it still wants to remove
binutils-common as well as the numerous Trinity packages.
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
9:58 p.m.
New subject: Lost TDE Display Manager
dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC):
Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by
sddm?
On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's missing functionality of KDM/TDM,
very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I even use it where
otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
All of my Bullseye installations were made long before its official release
yesterday. Lately, my only significant problem is TDM on Tumbleweed tries to start
before /dev/dri exists, so has to be restarted immediately upon boot
"completion".
I don't recall reproducing this on Bullseye as yet.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188954
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/555514-boots-too-fast-for-Xorg-t…
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10:33 p.m.
New subject: Lost TDE Display Manager
Info re libr0:
~$ sudo apt install binutils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libr0 : Depends: libbinutils (< 2.31.2) but 2.35.2-2 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.
~$ sudo apt install binutils libbinutils libr0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
libr0 is already the newest version (4:14.0.10-0debian10.0.0+0).
libr0 set to manually installed.
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libr0 : Depends: libbinutils (< 2.31.2) but 2.35.2-2 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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Trinity Desktop Environment: 14.0.10 - Debian: 10.10 (amd64)
10:37 p.m.
New subject: Lost TDE Display Manager
said Felix Miata:
| dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC):
| > Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely supplanted by sddm?
|
| On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's missing functionality
| of KDM/TDM, very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I
| even use it where otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
Out of curiosity: What functionality did it lose? I truly can't tell the
difference here between them.
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11:36 p.m.
New subject: Lost TDE Display Manager
dep composed on 2021-08-15 22:37 (UTC):
said Felix Miata:
| dep composed on 2021-08-15 21:15 (UTC):
| > Hasn't TDM been mostly or entirely
supplanted by sddm?
| On 97% of my installations, not even close. It's
missing functionality
| of KDM/TDM, very frustrating. All my TDE installations have TDM only. I
| even use it where otherwise I have only KDE/Plasma installed.
Out of curiosity: What functionality did it lose? I
truly can't tell the
difference here between them.
I've long since forgotten the differences. Two that come to mind:
1-The "default" mousetype-free (non-themed) theme layout in KDM/TDM is as close
to
perfect as any greeter could possibly be, and easy to "customize" by copying
kdmrc
from local template. Everything needed takes minimal mouse movement, if a mouse is
to be used at all.
2-No way to pick and choose user names, regardless of UID or GID, to be displayed
on login screen in any other DM that I've ever found. IOW, nothing else akin to
ShowUsers=Selected and SelectedUsers=userT,userD,userE.
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27 Apr
27 Apr
5:20 a.m.
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Felix Miata composed on 2021-08-15 17:58 (UTC-0400):
Lately, my only significant problem is TDM on
Tumbleweed tries to start
before /dev/dri exists, so has to be restarted immediately upon boot
"completion".
I don't recall reproducing this on Bullseye as yet.
Still happening on multiple PCs.
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Felix Miata
16 Aug
16 Aug
1:08 a.m.
On Sun August 15 2021 13:59:11 Edward wrote:
After upgrading to Debian 11 on both of my two
systems, upon reboot, I
lost the TDE Display Manager. The login screen defaults to whatever
Debian itself uses and I have been unsuccessful getting the TDE login
manager back.
I just did Buster->Bullseye upgrade in a VM but I had to pin libr0
from TDE PSB Bullseye to make TDE Stable Buster work with Debian
Bullseye until the next TDE Stable releases about the end of October.
It works and I can login but I haven't done much testing.
--Mike
Relevant portion of apt sources:
deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster main
deb-src http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu buster
main
deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/ubuntu
buster main
deb-src
http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/ubuntu
buster main
deb http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb bullseye main-r14
deb-src http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb bullseye
main-r14
Relevant portion of apt preferences:
Package: libr0
Pin: release o=trinitydesktop.org,n=bullseye
Pin-Priority: 2500
Package: *
Pin: release o=trinitydesktop.org,n=buster
Pin-Priority: 2000
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