said William Morder via tde-users: | It's been awhile since I dealt with this one, though; but as I recall, | just uninstall gnome-keyring. There's also another, gnome-keyring-pkcs11 | and also network-manager-gnome, but I believe that these others don't | get installed almost by default, as it were. | | You might be tempted to purge your system of everything Gnomish (and I | only wish I could), but it seems that some Gnome dependencies are used | on practically all systems. I did try weeding out everything Gnomish, | and it's like stepping in quicksand. | | Start by purging those packages, one-at-a-time, and see the issue | disappears. yeppers, nuking gnome-keyring seems to have killed *that* popup. now, to be rid of trinity-keyring. is it safe to similarly dispatch it? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

said William Morder via tde-users: | I figured maybe I ought to give you a little while to get and read that | second email I sent regard the Trinity tdewallet keyring. | | If you don't use it to store your email passwords, no so much a problem, | then. There are other password managers, etc. But you also use the | tdewallet password to protect against changes to your email | configuration. | | Any changes in Kmail, account settings, port settings, whatever, and you | will be asked for your tdewallet password. And, as I said before, this | ought to be different from your other passwords, whether user password, | admin password, or whatever. My mail setup is unusual. I'm using ProtonMail via the ProtonMail Bridge, which is an encryption layer that lives on my machine and encrypts everything before it leaves the computer. I don't know if anyone else is using it with KMail; I know that no one was when I set it up initially and even now, a couple years later, the bridge application is not officially supported on Linux on anything other than Thunderbird. And it has a chain of passwords that are not understood by TDE. And a different password manager is needed for other stuff (though a good TDE front end for KeePass would be a useful thing; more useful, I think, than some obscure wallet thing). Thanks very much. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

On Wednesday 29 March 2023 17:12:02 you wrote: Yes, you are probably better served by your own setup. And one of these days I need to set myself to do some proper email encryption. But I believe I tried ProtonMail, and found it to be cumbersome. (I seem to recall that Nik offered to give us all a lesson in this matter...? although I tend to do things on my own time, so maybe before I die I will get all my stuff straight.) Anyway, so you don't need the tdewallet for that. But still (I believe) you ought to use it to protect your Kmail against changes in your configuration settings. I don't know quite how ProtonMail interacts with Kmail, though, so maybe others know better. My gut instinct, though, is to say that you ought to hang onto that tdewallet. I suppose you could always uninstall it, see what happens, then reinstall if something gets messed up. Bill

On Wednesday 29 March 2023 23:18:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote: Now you have got my curiosity. I was aware that tdewallet managed passwords for Kmail (as well as Kshowmail), and that it protected those apps against unwanted changes; but I have yet to discover what other TDE apps it controls - or, maybe, what other apps that it can be used to control. Please tell us! Bill

On Wednesday 29 March 2023 23:47:13 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote: Yeah, I would never use Konqueror as both file management *and* web browser. We have had that discussion here before. Konqueror, as far as I am concerned, is better than every other file manager out there. Some are comparable, but that's still my first choice. To use it as a web browser, too, seems to me inherently insecure. Pick one or the other, but not both. Bill

On Thursday 30 March 2023 01:49:54 deloptes via tde-users wrote: Oh yeah ... now that I think about it ... it's all coming back to me now. I did used to rely on tdewallet to keep passwords for my IM accounts, and I did used to use Kopete for chat, but since the past few years I haven't been able to get Kopete to work over Tor. It's been awhile since I checked, but I am guessing that it hasn't been significantly upgraded. Then I switched over to Pidgin, and tried some others (can't remember them all), but finally settled on Psi+, which has a lot of nice features, and works over Tor. But I can't use tdewallet for those passwords. Might be a good idea to use it for tdenetworkmanager, though; except, I don't know why, tdewallet has never prompted me for a network password. Hmmm. Bill

Anno domini 2023 Fri, 31 Mar 00:27:42 +0200 deloptes via tde-users scripsit: tdenetworkmanager uses networkmanager which saves the data on its own. And it does also funny things like link lical adresses and routes that get in your way when you don't need them. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...