31 Jan
2023
31 Jan
'23
3:17 a.m.
Hi All,
I use two virtual desktops. The majority of usage is with the first
desktop. Occasionally any simple mouse pointer movement on the first
desktop throws the focus into virtual desktop 2. The mouse is nowhere
near the panel workspace switcher/pager.
No data but the abrupt switch seems to occur after the desktop has been
idle for a while. Screen saver is set to 10 minutes blank screen.
The panel workspace switcher/pager applet scroll wheel cycling is
disabled and I am certain I am not touching the scroll wheel or mouse
buttons.
I tried different mice.
I tried different mouse pointers and currently use the System theme
option until finding the root cause.
Desktop-->Behavior-->Mouse Button Actions are configured to No Action/No
Action/Desktop Menu.
Desktop-->Taskbar-->Actions: Show Task List/Activate Task/Show
Operations Menu.
Desktop-->Panels-->Appearance-->Advanced Options: Applet Handles
configured to Visible, Fade out, or Hide makes no difference
Any insight or help appreciated.
Thanks for your time!
D.A
31 Jan
31 Jan
1:28 p.m.
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 21:17:23 -0600
Darrell Anderson via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
I use two virtual desktops. The majority of usage is
with the first
desktop. Occasionally any simple mouse pointer movement on the first
desktop throws the focus into virtual desktop 2. The mouse is nowhere
near the panel workspace switcher/pager.
No data but the abrupt switch seems to occur after the desktop has been
idle for a while. Screen saver is set to 10 minutes blank screen.
The panel workspace switcher/pager applet scroll wheel cycling is
disabled and I am certain I am not touching the scroll wheel or mouse
buttons.
Maybe you're somehow triggering a keyboard shortcut? (Sounds weird,
I know, but they're all handled by libinput these days . . .)
E. Liddell
10 p.m.
On 1/31/23 7:28 AM, E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
Maybe you're somehow triggering a keyboard
shortcut? (Sounds weird,
I know, but they're all handled by libinput these days . . .)
A good start, thank you!
Comically, to look for the related shortcuts I twirled my office chair
to the laptop where I am testing TDE. As soon as I touched the mouse --
boom, smacked into desktop 2.
I removed all of the related Ctrl+Fxx keyboard shortcuts. I'll see how
that goes. If the behavior stops then I have to figure out what is
triggering the shortcut. Trackpad is disabled....
1 Feb
1 Feb
7:07 a.m.
Anno domini 2023 Tue, 31 Jan 16:00:13 -0600
Darrell Anderson via tde-users scripsit:
On 1/31/23 7:28 AM, E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
Maybe you need to disable powersave modes for USB in the BIOS. I had the
jumping-cursor-problem, too, and it got worse with newer kernel versions - from 6.0 on I
got a new keyboard-dies-unexpectedly "died" unexpectidly-problem, turned out it
went to sleep and never woke up. Since I disabled USBP powersave the problems are gone.
Nik
Maybe you're somehow triggering a keyboard
shortcut? (Sounds weird,
I know, but they're all handled by libinput these days . . .)
A good start, thank you!
Comically, to look for the related shortcuts I twirled my office chair
to the laptop where I am testing TDE. As soon as I touched the mouse --
boom, smacked into desktop 2.
I removed all of the related Ctrl+Fxx keyboard shortcuts. I'll see how
that goes. If the behavior stops then I have to figure out what is
triggering the shortcut. Trackpad is disabled.... ____________________________________________________
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2 Feb
2 Feb
1:59 a.m.
On 2/1/23 1:07 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Maybe you need to disable powersave modes for USB in
the BIOS. I had the jumping-cursor-problem, too, and it got worse with newer kernel
versions - from 6.0 on I got a new keyboard-dies-unexpectedly "died"
unexpectidly-problem, turned out it went to sleep and never woke up. Since I disabled USBP
powersave the problems are gone.
Thanks! A sleeping USB mouse might be the cause although I never before
witnessed this behavior.
In my first attempt to resolve the problem I renamed two xorg.conf.d
files that are installed by the libinput package, which basically
disables libinput. On the problematic distro the problem did not occur
last night, but this likely will require several sittings of observation.
The mention of libinput in the previous reply got me thinking about the
basic behavior. My primary TDE test machine is multi-boot. I can boot
into an older distro that has the same version of TDE but does not use
libinput. I only observed last night so insufficient data, but with the
older distro not once did I experience the spastic pointer movement or
dumping me into desktop 2.
Thus far I only witness the behavior in TDE and no other DE. Yet the
previous reply got me thinking that the behavior was very much like a
gesture. To my knowledge nothing on the system, including TDE, has any
kind of gesturing enabled. Yet that is what the behavior seems like.
Seems libinput is a prime suspect.
From what I have read libinput is not fully developed yet and is useful
mostly with laptops and trackpads. I disable trackpads whenever possible
and use an external mouse. Disabling libinput is not step backwards for me.
I will tinker with USB power saving some time later because I want to
avoid introducing two concurrent troubleshooting variables. I can
envision where the power saving might act similar to a gesture. If the
problem continues then libinput is not the cause and on to testing USB
power saving. Likely I will test by restoring libinput and disabling the
power saving and see what happens.
Perhaps there is some kind of interaction between USB power saving and
libinput.
1 Feb
1 Feb
10:57 a.m.
Am Dienstag, 31. Januar 2023 schrieb Darrell Anderson via tde-users:
Hi All,
I use two virtual desktops. The majority of usage is with the first
desktop. Occasionally any simple mouse pointer movement on the first
desktop throws the focus into virtual desktop 2. The mouse is nowhere
near the panel workspace switcher/pager.
No data but the abrupt switch seems to occur after the desktop has
been idle for a while. Screen saver is set to 10 minutes blank
screen.
The panel workspace switcher/pager applet scroll wheel cycling is
disabled and I am certain I am not touching the scroll wheel or mouse
buttons.
I tried different mice.
I tried different mouse pointers and currently use the System theme
option until finding the root cause.
Desktop-->Behavior-->Mouse Button Actions are configured to No
Action/No Action/Desktop Menu.
Desktop-->Taskbar-->Actions: Show Task List/Activate Task/Show
Operations Menu.
Desktop-->Panels-->Appearance-->Advanced Options: Applet Handles
configured to Visible, Fade out, or Hide makes no difference
Any insight or help appreciated.
Maybe, just maybe… have you activated 'active desktop borders' so that
touching the edge with the cursor switches to another desktop?!
Please see: TDE Control Center -> Desktop -> Windows Behaviour ->
Advanced -> Active Desktop Borders.
Cheers, Stefan
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