23 Apr
2014
23 Apr
'14
6:38 p.m.
Hi Guys,
Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
applications and logout window has disapeared !
He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance:
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
23 Apr
23 Apr
11:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
applications and logout window has disapeared !
He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance:
My suggestion is that your friend gives the full and correct
info.
When was the last time it worked.
What did he do then. was it during doing work. Was it on bootup etc etc.
etc
24 Apr
24 Apr
12:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:15:56 +0700
From: tony.wolfs(a)gmail.com
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
Maybe he's going blind :)
No, seriously, it is really time for a new release of my LiveCD. It is really really near
release and it uses TDE packages builds against the new PCLinuxOS 2014 libs, which will be
much better because as of now, it might not be a good idea to update the remaster from
last summer.
Soon!
-Alexandre
Hi Guys,
Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
applications and logout window has disapeared !
He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance:
My suggestion is that your friend gives the full and correct
info.
When was the last time it worked.
What did he do then. was it during doing work. Was it on bootup etc etc.
etc
1:42 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 07:59 AM, Alexandre wrote:
Hi Alexandre
I am updating regularly, only because I want to find out when it will break.
So far it seems to go well, except for Wine, which got a deadly disease :-)
and firefox which got slow ( as mentioned in a previous post ) is now a
feature :-)
But from a technical point, I am very interested to know how the text
could disappear.
Never have seen that, in any distro !
OK, waiting for your remaster .
Tony
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:15:56 +0700
From: tony.wolfs(a)gmail.com
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
Maybe he's going blind :)
No, seriously, it is really time for a new release of my LiveCD. It is
really really near release and it uses TDE packages builds against the
new PCLinuxOS 2014 libs, which will be much better because as of now,
it might not be a good idea to update the remaster from last summer.
Soon!
-Alexandre Hi Guys,
Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
applications and logout window has disapeared !
He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance:
My suggestion is that your friend gives the full and correct
info.
When was the last time it worked.
What did he do then. was it during doing work. Was it on bootup etc etc.
etc
7:25 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Hi, Tony,
Your friend could try to select the area where the text is supposed to be,
and copy to clipboard, then paste into a plain text editor. It's possible
that rather than the text going away, it (or the background) got switched so
text and background are same color. Black-on-black used to be a frequent
problem with KDE version 1 in 1990's RedHat releases, when you tried to set
up a dark theme.
Douglas
From: Tony Wolfs [mailto:tony.wolfs@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:43 PM
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 07:59 AM, Alexandre wrote:
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:15:56 +0700
From: tony.wolfs(a)gmail.com
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
Maybe he's going blind :)
No, seriously, it is really time for a new release of my LiveCD. It is
really really near release and it uses TDE packages builds against the new
PCLinuxOS 2014 libs, which will be much better because as of now, it might
not be a good idea to update the remaster from last summer.
Soon!
-Alexandre
Hi Alexandre
I am updating regularly, only because I want to find out when it will break.
So far it seems to go well, except for Wine, which got a deadly disease :-)
and firefox which got slow ( as mentioned in a previous post ) is now a
feature :-)
But from a technical point, I am very interested to know how the text could
disappear.
Never have seen that, in any distro !
OK, waiting for your remaster .
Tony
Hi Guys,
Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
applications and logout window has disapeared !
He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks in advance:
My suggestion is that your friend gives the full and correct
info.
When was the last time it worked.
What did he do then. was it during doing work. Was it on bootup etc etc.
etc
8:55 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Hi, Tony,
Your friend could try to select the area where the text is supposed to
be, and copy to clipboard, then paste into a plain text editor. It's
possible that rather than the text going away, it (or the background)
got switched so text and background are same color. Black-on-black used
to be a frequent problem with KDE version 1 in 1990's RedHat releases,
when you tried to set up a dark theme.
Douglas
Hi Douglas
Thanks for the reply. Yes, my first thought was that he was editing
something and that it went wrong there.
That's why I asked more info. ( I don't like guessing ! )
I did a search and you are right, there were entries about it.
And btw, it was Baron's friend :-)
Have a nice day
Tony
9:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Hi Guys,
For some reason I'm not getting any posts from the list at the moment !
So I'm working from reading the posts on the web archive.
I hadn't thought about trying a new user. So that is one for tomorrow.
His HDD could be suspect since a few weeks ago he moved the machine to
another place in his room whilst it was still running.
I checked "Libre Office" and the same thing happens to the menu's there.
Oh he called me this evening to tell me that he can't print anything
either and Mplayer has stopped working.
The thought does occur to me that the mainboard could be dieing. Bad
Caps springs to mind so I might have to look at the board.
Thanks all.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
1:12 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Hi Guys, n Galls,
On Thursday 24 April 2014 00:59:52 Alexandre wrote:
> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:15:56 +0700
> From: tony.wolfs(a)gmail.com
> To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
> Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
>
> On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
> > applications and logout window has disapeared !
> >
> > He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
> >
> > I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance:
>
> My suggestion is that your friend gives the full and correct info.
> When was the last time it worked.
> What did he do then. was it during doing work. Was it on bootup etc
> etc. etc
I Agree ! He said that it was working fine before he went on holiday
for a fortnight and when he booted up for the first time after coming
back there was no text on any menu.
Maybe he's going blind :)
That may be more accurate than you think... He has diabetes.
No, seriously, it is really time for a new release of
my LiveCD. It
is really really near release and it uses TDE packages builds against
the new PCLinuxOS 2014 libs, which will be much better because as of
now, it might not be a good idea to update the remaster from last
summer.
Soon!
-Alexandre
Thanks Alexandre. I'm calling round to see him in a few minutes, so
I'll have a better idea of what is going on.
I'll report back.
Later:
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
6:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On Thursday 24 April 2014 00:59:52 Alexandre wrote:
> On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
> > applications and logout window has disapeared !
> >
> > He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
> >
> > I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance:
Hi All,
I've been round and had a look at his machine and seen the problem 1st
hand.
In every application the letter on the menu bar that has an underscore
either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Many of the folders have no visible name, but if you click to rename the
folder a blue bar appears the same length as the name if you could see
it. Most of the flyout menus have either the full name missing or part
of the name. There are spaces in the menus that a completly blank.
On logout there are similar missing letters and blank spaces.
I also discovered that a number of items on the desktop were
marked "Read Only" and making them read/write allowed the app called to
work.
Hope this helps to find out what he has done. He swears that the last
thing he did was to copy pictures off his phone before going on
holiday, at which time everything was working. Since calling me he has
tried to update his machine by running Synaptic, without any success.
Thanks Guys:
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
7:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Maybe this will give you some hints, I have a similar but less harmful
problem in my Debian Wheezy + IDE 3.5.13.2 installation:
- Sometimes scrollbars of GTK applications are drawn in strange
places, this is visible mostly in Palemoon, but sometimes in Geany
or GIMP too. Scrolling back and forth (or other refreshing
affected area) removes "fake" scrollbar.
- Rarely, one character of UI font gets damaged until relogin:
pixel line is missing, lower part is messed up, line is filled. It
affects all instances of a character. The same thing happens (very
rarely) for smallest icons, but never for UI parts or larger
(>=24x24) icons.
- Very rarely edited text in UI fields is missing, but selecting and
deselecting it makes it visible again.
- In LibreOffice text too long for field is drawn over field's end
entering form area, but can be edited in field only.
The problems in my case are probably related to poorly supported Intel
graphics chip (I'm using Dell D430 notebook) as only the last one
appears if the notebook is used not in a dock (in a dock
it runs dual 2048x1536 displays).
MCbx
Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> napisał(a):
On Thursday 24 April 2014 00:59:52 Alexandre wrote:
> On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
> > applications and logout window has disapeared !
> >
> > He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
> >
> > I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance:
Hi All,
I've been round and had a look at his machine and seen the problem
1st hand.
In every application the letter on the menu bar that has an
underscore either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Many of the folders have no visible name, but if you click to rename
the folder a blue bar appears the same length as the name if you
could see it. Most of the flyout menus have either the full name
missing or part of the name. There are spaces in the menus that a
completly blank. On logout there are similar missing letters and
blank spaces.
I also discovered that a number of items on the desktop were
marked "Read Only" and making them read/write allowed the app called
to work.
Hope this helps to find out what he has done. He swears that the
last thing he did was to copy pictures off his phone before going on
holiday, at which time everything was working. Since calling me he
has tried to update his machine by running Synaptic, without any
success.
Thanks Guys:
7:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/24/2014 11:23 AM, Baron wrote:
In every application the letter on the menu bar that
has an underscore
either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Does the problem occur when logged in as a different user?
(root, or create another user to test.)
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26 Apr
26 Apr
7:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On Thursday 24 April 2014, Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 04/24/2014 11:23 AM, Baron wrote:
Or another approach,
does the problem ocur when he boots a Live-CD like Linux Mint? In that case the hardware
is very likely the culprit.
Gerhard
In every application the letter on the menu bar
that has an underscore
either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Does the problem occur when logged in as a different user?
(root, or create another user to test.)
24 Apr
24 Apr
8:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
Am Donnerstag, 24. April 2014 schrieb Baron:
On Thursday 24 April 2014 00:59:52 Alexandre wrote:
And he is sure his harddrive is OK?
Nik
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> On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
> > applications and logout window has disapeared !
> >
> > He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
> >
> > I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance:
Hi All,
I've been round and had a look at his machine and seen the problem 1st
hand.
In every application the letter on the menu bar that has an underscore
either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Many of the folders have no visible name, but if you click to rename the
folder a blue bar appears the same length as the name if you could see
it. Most of the flyout menus have either the full name missing or part
of the name. There are spaces in the menus that a completly blank.
On logout there are similar missing letters and blank spaces.
I also discovered that a number of items on the desktop were
marked "Read Only" and making them read/write allowed the app called to
work.
Hope this helps to find out what he has done. He swears that the last
thing he did was to copy pictures off his phone before going on
holiday, at which time everything was working. Since calling me he has
tried to update his machine by running Synaptic, without any success.
Thanks Guys:
25 Apr
25 Apr
1:40 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Text Vanished
On 04/25/2014 03:52 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 24. April 2014 schrieb Baron:
Hi
Nice to find 42 emails in your inbox when you wake up in the morning :-)
Baron, this is what I would do/would advice your friend.
It's not satisfying from a technical point of view, .....but.....since
Alexandre is coming out with a brand new remaster in a couple of days, I
would ignore the whole tutti and backup what needs to be backed up and
install the << new >> remaster as soon as it's available..
Alternative, he can re-install the old one in a << separate >>
partition. Just install, no configuration or updates.
This may or may not help to determine if hardware is involved, and then
take it up from there.
That is, if he is the tinkering-kind-of-person
Thirdly, the obvious choice, use his backup to restore the defect one.
That's what backups are for.
But I bet my last dollar he hasn't a backup, otherwise he wouldn't have
asked for assistance.
I am guilty of that crime too :-) more often than not !
And now I have to go. It's an important day for my grand-son , and I am
supposed to be there
See you guys later
Have fun
Tony
On Thursday 24 April 2014 00:59:52 Alexandre
wrote:
And he is sure his harddrive is OK?
Nik
> On 04/24/2014 01:38 AM, Baron wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Just had a friend call me and tell me that all the text in his
>> applications and logout window has disapeared !
>>
>> He is running Alexandre's PCLinuxOS with the Trinity desktop.
>>
>> I don't have a clue where to look to sort this issue.
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Thanks in advance:
Hi All,
I've been round and had a look at his machine and seen the problem 1st
hand.
In every application the letter on the menu bar that has an underscore
either at the begining or end has the letter missing.
Many of the folders have no visible name, but if you click to rename the
folder a blue bar appears the same length as the name if you could see
it. Most of the flyout menus have either the full name missing or part
of the name. There are spaces in the menus that a completly blank.
On logout there are similar missing letters and blank spaces.
I also discovered that a number of items on the desktop were
marked "Read Only" and making them read/write allowed the app called to
work.
Hope this helps to find out what he has done. He swears that the last
thing he did was to copy pictures off his phone before going on
holiday, at which time everything was working. Since calling me he has
tried to update his machine by running Synaptic, without any success.
Thanks Guys:
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