High everyone, I have just installed Trinity from the binary repositories. I strictly followed the instructions on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/OpenSUSEBinaryIns… but zypper complained about a missing dependency. I'd bet a lot that was the accessibility package, because I clearly remember that I thought "Heck, I'm not that disabled...". It downloaded everything, then installed everything (at least it looked like that). But I couldn't get it to run. There was no startkde, no starttde, no kwin, no twin, no whatever. But it certainly installed a lot of files in /opt. To let you have a figure without sending the whole ls-lR: $ du -sh /opt/* 61M /opt/kde3 377M /opt/trinity That was yesterday. Now before sending this email, I just called YaST to check back for the dependency message, which now is obviously altered to trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch requires trinity-tdeaddons >= 3.5.13.2, but this requirement cannot be provided There is a package called trinity-kdeaddons in the repo, but its size is just 0 bytes; the corresponding debugsource seems healthy (3.4MiB). This is the same for trinity-tdeaccessibility (0 vs. 2.7MiB). Other zero-size packages (except the meta packages) are: - trinity-gwenview-i18n-debugsource - trinity-kaffeine-mozilla-debugsource - trinity-kstreamripper-debugsource - trinity-libqt3-jni-devel - trinity-libtrinity-jni-devel - trinity-python-trinity-debugsource - trinity-rosegarden-debugsource - trinity-smartcardauth-debugsource - trinity-tdeadmin - trinity-tdeartwork (though YaST shows it as installed, but also describes it as a meta package) - trinity-tdebindings (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-devel - trinity-tdebindings-java (shown as installed) - trinity-tdebindings-xparts-extras - trinity-tdegames - trinity-tdegames-devel - trinity-tdemultimedia - trinity-tdepim - trinity-tdesdk - trinity-tdesdk-devel - trinity-tdeutils - trinity-tdewebdev That's what I've found; maybe I missed a few --- operating yast over a low bandwidth vnc is a bit clumsy. Now YaST shows 1058 packages overall; rpm -qa reports 168 packages (I didn't count those shown as installed in YaST), and I'm sure that the download contained of 223 individual files. I have no idea which of the packages didn't install due to unresolved dependencies, or which are simply not covered by the trinity-desktop meta package, but many things that I actually expected were not installed, like kwin/twin, startkde/starttde, etc. when trying to install trinity-twin, YaST shows the missing tdeaddons dependency again, referring to trinity-desktop, not trinity-twin. I select "break trinity-desktop-3.5.13.2-2.oss123.opt.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies" actually selects twin for installation. I will see how far this will work. Most of the above zero-sized files are not that important, but I definitely want to have kicker. Anyway, I think it'd be great if this would be fixed. No need to do it today though :-) Have a merry X-mas, best regards and thanks in advance, Jagged