9 Jan
2013
9 Jan
'13
4:19 p.m.
Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new packages
available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the
hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
9 Jan
9 Jan
4:23 p.m.
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Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the
hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know
whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek
--
4:39 p.m.
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Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
----------------------------
Thank you, Slávek
In a "su" Konsole, I tryed:
bash: adept-notifier-trinity: commande inconnue...
bash: adept-notifier: commande inconnue...
bash: adept: commande inconnue...
Cheers,
Patrick
Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see the
hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know
whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek
4:47 p.m.
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Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
On Debian / Ubuntu this is the name of the package:
aptitude install adept-notifier-trinity
But as I see - you're currently on Fedora. So you will need to find out if
it is available. I do not know if it can work with rpm.
Slavek
--
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
----------------------------
Thank you, Slávek
In a "su" Konsole, I tryed:
bash: adept-notifier-trinity: commande inconnue...
bash: adept-notifier: commande inconnue...
bash: adept: commande inconnue...
Cheers,
Patrick
Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see
the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know
whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek 
14 Jan
14 Jan
3:28 a.m.
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On Wednesday 09 January 2013 7:23:17 am you wrote:
Dne st 9. ledna 2013 Patrick Serru napsal(a):
Thanks for the info. The adept-notify stuff is working. I was looking
for a way for someone who knows zip , or less, about computers, could
keep a TDE box current.
--
Peace,
Greg
Hi All,
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)? I only see
the hermetic "kpackage" in my installation.
Should I go in gnome to check-update packages?
thank you
On Debian / Ubuntu you can use adept-notifier-trinity. I do not know
whether it is available also for rpm based distributions.
Slavek 
9 Jan
9 Jan
5:33 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Checking available new packages updates
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE, if
there are new packages
available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but
there are so many
installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got a
stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it
to work right by using one of the live CDs.
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6:55 p.m.
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Le 09/01/2013 18:33, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Hello,
there is no apt-get in Fedora, and even if there was, the official
repositories are not in APT format, so it would be useless.
The "adept" program is designed for apt-get only, so I did not even
built it on Fedora.
Kpackage is usable with RPM packages, alas it lacks features that YUM
provides.
So there is no good package manager for Fedora in Trinity.
I suggest you install "yumex", it is in GTK but does not require the
entire gnome.
Install with:
yum install yumex
Francois
Can someone tell me how to check, from
TDE, if there are new packages
available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt,
but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but
there are so many
installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've
never successfully got a
stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get it
to work right by using one of the live CDs.
11 Jan
11 Jan
11:33 p.m.
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Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, François ANDRIOT a écrit :
Le 09/01/2013 18:33, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi François,
I did install. It looks running well. I just dont know what to do with
it at the moment :-) I'll wait for being a little less lost, to use it!
Thank you,
Patrick
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
Hello,
there is no apt-get in Fedora, and even if there was, the official
repositories are not in APT format, so it would be useless.
The "adept" program is designed for apt-get only, so I did not even
built it on Fedora.
Kpackage is usable with RPM packages, alas it lacks features that YUM
provides.
So there is no good package manager for Fedora in Trinity.
I suggest you install "yumex", it is in GTK but does not require the
entire gnome.
Install with:
yum install yumex
Francois Can someone tell me how to check, from
TDE, if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora
has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update
Then to see and install the updates:
apt-get dist-upgrade
On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but
there are so many
installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've
never successfully
got a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able
to get it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
9 Jan
9 Jan
9:35 p.m.
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On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
In several tries on several different distros,
I've never successfully got
a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and, fingers
crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi
10:05 p.m.
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Hi Lisi,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 21:35:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist
wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by
Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I get
occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the
clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent
mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message I
replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a downloaded
item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder and I have to
download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues
that need attention.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
In several tries on several different distros,
I've never
successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and,
fingers crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing
functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi
10:18 p.m.
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Replying to my own post.
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live
CD made available
by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I
get occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the
clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent
mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message
I replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a
downloaded item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder
and I have to download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues
that need attention.
I've just spotted another odd Kmail behaviour !
The copy of the mail that I just sent ended up in the folder with the
message that I replied to, so I decided to move it into the correct
(sent mail) folder by dragging and the message I replied to also got
moved into the sent mail folder.
Very odd ! I've not seen that happen before.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
11:24 p.m.
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On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live
CD made available by
Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable !
As I say, I am running Debian Squeeze. 2 instances of 3.5.13 (clients) and 2
of 3.5.13.2 (here at home). So far, I am very pleased with it.
One of the two clients had never used Linux before. So far, after about six
months, she has hit one problem only - but it was just a setting that she
couldn't find, although it was there and I was able to set it for her.
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using facilities
that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a marvellous
facility to have given the community, but it is not fair to use it to say
that TDE is never stable on anything.
Ubuntu and Debian appear to be the best supported (impression, not detailed
analysis). Have you tried either of those? It sounds as though Wheezy and
TDE is still not stable, so you would get better stability by sticking to
Squeeze, though I advise using Slávek's repositories. Mutatis mutandis, I am
sure that the same applies to Ubuntu (Kubuntu), but I am not up on that, so
cannot express an opinion on which version is the best compromise between
stable and up-to-date.
Lisi
10 Jan
10 Jan
10:23 p.m.
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Hi Lisi n all,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 23:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 22:05:36 Baron wrote:
> I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available
> by Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable !
I have a couple of other friends using PClinuxOS installed from the live
CD and so far neither have mentioned that they have had any problems.
Actually that not quite true, one mentioned that his printer, a DeskJet
720 does'nt print, but that I suspect is a cups problem.
As I say, I am running Debian Squeeze. 2 instances of
3.5.13
(clients) and 2 of 3.5.13.2 (here at home). So far, I am very
pleased with it.
Good ! I'm glad that you are pleased with TDE. A lot of people have
put a great deal of hard work into it.
One of the two clients had never used Linux before.
So far, after
about six months, she has hit one problem only - but it was just a
setting that she couldn't find, although it was there and I was able
to set it for her.
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using
facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a
marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair
to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading and
implies something that was not said...
My comments were simply based on my experience having, up to now, stuck
with Open SuSE 11.1 and wanting to use a couple of applications that
wouldn't run on it but do run quite satisfactorily on PClinuxOS.
I never saw any of the issues that I have reported whilst running Open
SuSE. In fact I don't see any lockups running the PClinuxOS live CD.
Thanks to another user who kindly pointed out a setting in Kmail I think
the issue with replies ending up in the wrong folder is down to me not
knowing what setting and where to look for it.
Ubuntu and Debian appear to be the best supported
(impression, not
detailed analysis). Have you tried either of those? It sounds as
though Wheezy and TDE is still not stable, so you would get better
stability by sticking to Squeeze, though I advise using Slávek's
repositories. Mutatis mutandis, I am sure that the same applies to
Ubuntu (Kubuntu), but I am not up on that, so cannot express an
opinion on which version is the best compromise between stable and
up-to-date.
Lisi
The other distributions you mention I've only tried the live CD's.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
11:30 p.m.
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On Thursday 10 January 2013 22:23:32 Baron wrote:
It _was_ said, but not by you. Sorry. Dan said it:
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist wrote:
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using
facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It is a
marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is not fair
to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading and
implies something that was not said... In several tries on several different distros,
I've never successfully got
a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get
it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
This was really what I was answering. It was careless to give the impression
that you had said it. So my reply applies to Dan. Sorry, Baron.
Lisi
11 Jan
11 Jan
9:10 p.m.
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Hi Lisi,
On Thursday 10 January 2013 23:30:49 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 10 January 2013 22:23:32 Baron wrote:
It _was_ said, but not by you. Sorry. Dan said it:
No problem. :-)
Alexandre's live CD is not "official" yet. Perhaps you are using
facilities that Alexandre does not use, so has not polished. It
is a marvellous facility to have given the community, but it is
not fair to use it to say that TDE is never stable on anything.
Note: I did say "My installation" ! Your comment is misleading
and implies something that was not said... On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan Youngquist
wrote:
> In several tries on several different distros, I've never
> successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
> I've only been able to get it to work right by using one of the
> live CDs.
I never saw that post.
This was really what I was answering. It was careless
to give the
impression that you had said it. So my reply applies to Dan. Sorry,
Baron.
Lisi
Forget it ! Lets move on.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
10 Jan
10 Jan
4:11 a.m.
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Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Baron a écrit :
Hi Lisi,
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 21:35:50 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am scared, reading that... There is only 1 source of source files, I
suppose. Until now, I incriminated some Grub, X and others "low level"
softwares (but not hardware!). But what to think when it is KMail that
bugs???
Related to KMail, I mention just now the nice feature that is the
local date representation corresponding to the sender, while headers
are "fantasy represented headers". I see that the backgroud color is
related to the time of the day. But in the same time, I can see a little
bug representing the XFace. The forground and background colors change from
one click to another on the same mail (see attached pictures). I noted too
that in the french version, there are two Ctrl+S in the menus:
- "File" (Fichier) menu for the "Save as" (Enregistrer sous...) item,
and in
the
- "Edition" (Édition) menu for the "Find" or "Search"
(Chercher...) item.
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There are plenty of small pebbles
in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I
would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with
Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as suggested
and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers,
Patrick
On Wednesday 09 January 2013 17:33:41 Dan
Youngquist wrote:
I'm running the PClinuxOS installed from the live CD made available by
Alexandre Couture. My installation is definitely not stable ! I get
occasional instances where the desktop becomes frozen, non of the
clickable items respond. Sometimes mail in Kmail vanishes and sent
mail copies either disapear or end up in the folder with the message I
replied to, rather than in the sent folder. More rarely a downloaded
item dissapears, it simply isn't in the download folder and I have to
download it again.
So whilst it works and is far better than KDE4 there are some issues
that need attention. In several tries on several different distros,
I've never
successfully got a stable, completely working TDE installation.
I now have four running on Squeeze for four different people, and,
fingers crossed, it is stable. And no complaints about missing
functionality.
It had better be stable! My reputation depends on it. ;-)
Lisi 
8:47 a.m.
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On Thursday 10 of January 2013 05:11:35 Patrick Serru wrote:
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There are
plenty of small pebbles
in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I
would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with
Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as suggested
and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers,
Patrick
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from
this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubun…
Slavek
--
2:06 p.m.
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Le jeudi 10 janvier 2013, Slávek Banko a écrit :
On Thursday 10 of January 2013 05:11:35 Patrick Serru
wrote:
----------------------------------
Hi Slávek,
I was surprised, but as this version was the most stable I ever
seen... OK: I will try that very soon… Got to download it, first.
Cheers,
Patrick
I'm currently using Fedora17 + TDE. There
are plenty of small pebbles
in my shoes, but I can live daily with it. It would be the distribution I
would suggest yet, for a complete installation. But I do not give up with
Ubuntu, trying from KUbu 10.10-TDE (downloaded on 16/08/2011), as
suggested and with the support of Slavek.
Cheers,
Patrick
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and
from this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages...
Slavek
4:41 p.m.
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On 01/10/2013 12:47 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on Ubuntu
12.04 (Precise) and from
this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubun…
This reminds me, I posted some weeks ago and got no reply. The 32-bit ISO
won't boot for me because it says it needs PAE. Is there a chance you'll
make a version that will run on a machine without PAE, or is there some way
to make this one work?
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5:32 p.m.
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Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 01/10/2013 12:47 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
As far as I know the latest Ubuntu release is PAE-only, full stop :(
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-May/035176.html
It is apparently possible to update from 12.04 and thus keep the old
kernel, or one could
compile a new kernel without PAE.
I assumed that you use the LiveCD for TDE on
Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and from
this you upgrade to 12.10 (Quantal).
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/cdimages/thirdparty/ubun…
This reminds me, I posted some weeks ago and got no reply. The 32-bit ISO
won't boot for me because it says it needs PAE. Is there a chance you'll
make a version that will run on a machine without PAE, or is there some way
to make this one work?
1:47 a.m.
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Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013, Dan Youngquist a écrit :
On 01/09/2013 08:19 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
the respons is
bash: apt-get: commande inconnue...
(unknown command)
Can someone tell me how to check, from TDE,
if there are new
packages available for updating (especially XWindows)?
I don't know if Fedora has apt, but if so, to check for updates:
apt-get update On 01/09/2013 08:49 AM, Patrick Serru wrote:
I thank you so much, Dan. I
can stop wondering if my head is going too
bad. Real tanks.
TDE is (for me) the best desktop alternative, but
there are so many
installation problems!
In several tries on several different distros, I've never successfully got
a stable, completely working TDE installation. I've only been able to get
it to work right by using one of the live CDs.
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