On Saturday 05 of September 2020 12:51:46 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote: The whole thread in the new web archive: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt… Cheers

On Sunday 06 September 2020 02:20:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Only problem is, now I get twice as many emails, the emotional toll has doubled, and I can't keep up any more. I am getting duplicates from most people now, but I discovered something interesting in Nik's emails. (See attachments for comparison.) We must remember to correct our "reply to" fields, etc. I create template emails to use, which is a wee bother as there is no shortcut, and its a slippery gui to navigate, for me to get to the TDE-NEW-mailing_list template, but maybe I'll create a shortcut. Once I've sent, any replies take care of themselves, I believe, and all the correct headers are in place. You'll notice that, with Nik's headers, something is amiss. Bill

On Sunday 06 September 2020 02:20:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Only problem is, now I get twice as many emails, the emotional toll has doubled, and I can't keep up any more. I am getting duplicates from most people now, but I discovered something interesting in Nik's emails. (See attachments for comparison.) We must remember to correct our "reply to" fields, etc. I create template emails to use, which is a wee bother as there is no shortcut, and its a slippery gui to navigate, for me to get to the TDE-NEW-mailing_list template, but maybe I'll create a shortcut. Once I've sent, any replies take care of themselves, I believe, and all the correct headers are in place. You'll notice that, with Nik's headers, something is amiss.

Bill

[cout out a lot of lines] What I meant was, *your* headers are reversed. TDE-users has trinity-users as "reply to" address; trinity-users has TDE-users and Nik (if I recall) as "reply to" addresses. It is not a problem with the list, but I think Nik is sending out too much information on the old list. In the new list, his "reply to" gives the old list. I'm not complaining about the list; I am pointing out those details that Nik might not want. Myself, I keep trying to make an email template, just for use on TDE-users, and I give sample screenshots here. But when I've attempted to send recent emails to the list, they stay in my outbox, and I am told that they cannot be sent due to unknown mail transport or something. I believe that means my Zoho mail account is being rejected for smtp, or is rejecting my emails to TDE-users, or something. This is why I do not like change; even though I do know that it will happen despite all my best efforts to maintain order. Bill

On Sunday 06 September 2020 03:15:45 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Hi Nik, What are you doing different than everyone else? I keep getting your mails with, From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a){delete}.{delete}> and not like: From: "Michael via tde-users" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> From: "Slávek Banko via tde-users" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> You're messing up my KMail filters, so fix it! Or I'll sick Kate on you, I'm soon to be her pet I hear ;) {Pet status has some privileges, right?}

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Anno domini 2020 Sun, 6 Sep 23:09:25 +0200 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: Playing echo box: I get the mails from users(a)trinitydesktop.org with my complete email inside the mail header, so "from" is "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>iz>. This raises an even more interesting question: why is my email address changed on the path from ML to your mail client? Is it only my email? Who else has that problem? Nik

> I've heared rumours about Kate building voodoo dolls. Aren't pets part > of these dolls? Or was that chickens? ... I remember, chicken blood > was art of the game. And when it's set ... can be used in deliciouse > dishes of the "Hirn auf Ei" (brain on egg) kind ... now I'm hungry ... > > Nik > > > Best, > > Michael > >

Your posts are evading my sieve filter too. Every other post from the list goes through the filter and is delivered to my Trinity folder. Not in a position to check why at the moment but you may end up in my 'Kill File' at this rate. 😁

On 6 September 2020 22:23:36 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>

> Anno domini 2020 Sun, 6 Sep 23:09:25 +0200 > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: >> Anno domini 2020 Sun, 6 Sep 15:41:02 -0500 >> >> Michael via tde-users scripsit: >> > On Sunday 06 September 2020 03:15:45 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >> > > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 6 Sep 08:01:28 -0700 >> > > >> > > William Morder via trinity-users via tde-users scripsit: >> > > > [cout out a lot of lines] >> > > > >> > > > > > You'll notice that, with Nik's headers, something is amiss. >> > > > > >> > > > > Take the mail that comes from "trinity-users@..." and >> > > > > unsubscribe. Same thing happend to me some days ago :) >> > > > > >> > > > > Nik >> > > > > >> > > > > > Bill >> > > > >> > > > What I meant was, *your* headers are reversed. >> > > > >> > > > TDE-users has trinity-users as "reply to" address; >> > > > trinity-users has TDE-users and Nik (if I recall) as "reply to" >> > > > addresses. >> > > > >> > > > It is not a problem with the list, but I think Nik is sending >> > > > out too much information on the old list. In the new list, his >> > > > "reply to" gives the old list. I'm not complaining about the >> > > > list; I am pointing out those details that Nik might not want. >> > > > >> > > > Myself, I keep trying to make an email template, just for use >> > > > on TDE-users, and I give sample screenshots here. But when I've >> > > > attempted to send recent emails to the list, they stay in my >> > > > outbox, and I am told that they cannot be sent due to unknown >> > > > mail transport or something. I believe that means my Zoho mail >> > > > account is being rejected for smtp, or is rejecting my emails >> > > > to TDE-users, or something. >> > > > >> > > > This is why I do not like change; even though I do know that it >> > > > will happen despite all my best efforts to maintain order. >> > > > >> > > > Bill >> > > >> > > Hm ... mail harvesters scan the whole header, so there's no point >> > > in hiding the obviouse, I think :) >> > > >> > > Nik >> > >> > Hi Nik, >> > >> > What are you doing different than everyone else? >> > >> > I keep getting your mails with, >> > >> > From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office(a){delete}.{delete}> >> > >> > and not like: >> > >> > From: "Michael via tde-users" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> >> > From: "Slávek Banko via tde-users" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> >> > >> > You're messing up my KMail filters, so fix it! Or I'll sick Kate >> > on you, I'm soon to be her pet I hear ;) {Pet status has some >> > privileges, right?} >> >> That's funny. I just hit "l" in kmail, type my stuff and send it. If >> my email got deleted on my side of the transfer, then I'd get a >> bounce from my provider. So some gremlin is eating my domain name - >> just whoe does dislike me that much? > > Playing echo box: I get the mails from users(a)trinitydesktop.org with > my complete email inside the mail header, so "from" is "Dr. Nikolaus > Klepp" <office(a)klepp.biz>iz>. This raises an even more interesting > question: why is my email address changed on the path from ML to your > mail client? Is it only my email? Who else has that problem? > > Nik > >> I've heared rumours about Kate building voodoo dolls. Aren't pets >> part of these dolls? Or was that chickens? ... I remember, chicken >> blood was art of the game. And when it's set ... can be used in >> deliciouse dishes of the "Hirn auf Ei" (brain on egg) kind ... now >> I'm hungry ... >> >> Nik >> >> > Best, >> > Michael >> >

This problem seems to have returned. Has anybody else noticed it?

After upgrading packages about a week ago, everything seemed to run fine until I started having very strange network issues. I rebooted, and got this same message as I remember from some old threads.