Okay guys, so I am stumped and confuzzled. I just did an upgrade to Devuan Beowulf (= Debian Buster), and everything went fine; except once up and running, I couldn't download more than a few of Trinity's packages. After trying different repositories, and playing with my sources list, I managed to do just a bit better, then I saved the day with some extreme voodoo using about config [*I meant to say, apt-get* ... writing on auto-pilot] (scrolling through the manpages to find something that work). I ended up getting enough the Trinity packages to download by using --ignore-hold and dselect-upgrade options. I even searched out the links to deb packages on the developers' repositories, and downloaded them with wget, so that I could try forcing install using dpkg. Now at least (at last) I do have a working system which is a reasonable facsimile of my previous one, but it does seem like it ought to have been easier. For about the past three days now, I've lived in the command-line. Also I would like recommendations for a firewall that displays active connections and rules, etc., like the old Firestarter used to do. I catch all kinds of problems by noticing activity on my firewall, but now I cannot seem to find one that displays active connections, and Firestarter can no longer be hacked to make it work on a newer system. Thanks for any advice or comments, Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting