10 Mar
2009
10 Mar
'09
3:01 p.m.
I've got another question. Again, my home system works well and my
laptop has trouble. Both run kde 3.5 on Ubuntu. The desktop is 64
bit and the laptop 32 bit.
When kopete starts on my laptop is can't connect to kwallet. It
prompts for passwords, then says that it can't save them securely.
This happens every time I log in.
On my desktop, kopete connects to kwallet fine. I get prompted once
for the kwallet password, and never again.
I don't even know where to start looking for the problem.
Michael
10 Mar
10 Mar
3:44 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Hi Michael,
Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
Did your kwallet worked once?
Regards,
Stefan
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
I've got another question. Again, my home system
works well and my
laptop has trouble. Both run kde 3.5 on Ubuntu. The desktop is 64
bit and the laptop 32 bit.
When kopete starts on my laptop is can't connect to kwallet. It
prompts for passwords, then says that it can't save them securely.
This happens every time I log in.
On my desktop, kopete connects to kwallet fine. I get prompted once
for the kwallet password, and never again.
I don't even know where to start looking for the problem.
Michael
8:42 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Hi Michael,
Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
Did your kwallet worked once?
I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
Michael
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
I've got another question. Again, my home
system works well and my
laptop has trouble. Both run kde 3.5 on Ubuntu. The desktop is 64
bit and the laptop 32 bit.
When kopete starts on my laptop is can't connect to kwallet. It
prompts for passwords, then says that it can't save them securely.
This happens every time I log in.
On my desktop, kopete connects to kwallet fine. I get prompted once
for the kwallet password, and never again.
I don't even know where to start looking for the problem.
Michael
11 Mar
11 Mar
9:34 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last updates
when the PPA was inconsistent.
You could check the following:
- is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
"kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
- what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions.
Good luck!
Regards,
Stefan
Hi Michael,
Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
Did your kwallet worked once?
I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
13 Mar
13 Mar
8:20 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
use it.
Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful.
Thanks,
Michael
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last updates
when the PPA was inconsistent.
You could check the following:
- is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
"kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
- what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions. Hi Michael,
Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
Did your kwallet worked once?
I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
15 Mar
15 Mar
2:22 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Oh, I didn't know that your kwallet works with other programs. Than it wouldn't
make
much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be OK. What happens
if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}. Can you
unhide
the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete passwords, you
can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the passwords
again via
kopete.
Good luck!
Regards,
Stefan
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
use it.
Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Hm, I don't know if there
are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last updates
when the PPA was inconsistent.
You could check the following:
- is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
"kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
- what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions. Hi Michael,
Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
Did your kwallet worked once?
I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to
/opt/kde3. The
laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
19 Mar
19 Mar
11:30 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
So I went into my wallet and deleted the kopete folder. All the
passwords were there but I deleted them anyway.
I get the exact same error when I run kopete. I complains that it
can't save them securely and offers an insecure save. I say no to
insecure save and have to enter the passwords.
Michael
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Oh, I didn't know that your kwallet works with other programs. Than it wouldn't
make
much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be OK. What happens
if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}. Can you
unhide
the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete passwords, you
can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the passwords
again via
kopete. Michael Hirsch schrieb:
dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
use it.
Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
>
> Did your kwallet worked once?
I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
Hm, I don't know if there
are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last updates
when the PPA was inconsistent.
You could check the following:
- is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
"kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
- what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions.
20 Mar
20 Mar
1:55 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
OK, looks like kopete is completely unable to connect to kwallet. But why? I have no
idea.
Sorry. This should have nothing to do with the new location of kde.
Regards,
Stefan
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
So I went into my wallet and deleted the kopete folder. All the
passwords were there but I deleted them anyway.
I get the exact same error when I run kopete. I complains that it
can't save them securely and offers an insecure save. I say no to
insecure save and have to enter the passwords. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
Oh, I didn't know
that your kwallet works with other programs. Than it wouldn't make
much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be OK. What happens
if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}. Can you
unhide
the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete passwords, you
can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the passwords
again via
kopete. Michael Hirsch schrieb:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
>>
>> Did your kwallet worked once?
> I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
> laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
> ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
> a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
> tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last updates
when the PPA was inconsistent.
You could check the following:
- is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
"kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
- what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions.
dcop
is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
use it.
Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful. 
21 Mar
21 Mar
12:06 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Stefan Endrullis wrote:
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
I understand that my suggestion is NOT a fix for your problem, but why
do you use kopete and not pidgin, for example? I used to use kopete,
but pidgin is much more convenient and user friendly, IMO.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
OK, looks like kopete is completely unable to connect to kwallet. But why? I have no
idea.
Sorry. This should have nothing to do with the new location of kde.
Regards,
Stefan
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
So I went into my wallet and deleted the kopete folder. All the
passwords were there but I deleted them anyway.
I get the exact same error when I run kopete. I complains that it
can't save them securely and offers an insecure save. I say no to
insecure save and have to enter the passwords.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis
<stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
> Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
>>>
>>> Did your kwallet worked once?
>>>
>> I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
>> laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I installed
>> ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to get
>> a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
>> tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
>>
> Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using /opt/kde3)
> which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
> It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the last
updates
> when the PPA was inconsistent.
>
> You could check the following:
> - is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you should see
> "kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
> - what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home directory? can
> you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration? That would
> mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file permissions.
>
dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
use it.
Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful.
Oh, I didn't know that your kwallet works with other programs. Than
it wouldn't make
much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be OK. What happens
if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}. Can you
unhide
the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete passwords, you
can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the passwords
again via
kopete.
4:58 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:06 PM, B. Buchli <bbuchli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Stefan Endrullis wrote:
Mostly because I like KDE things. They work well together. Pidgin
doesn't know how to read my Kaddressbook contents, so there is no
integration with my addressbook. Pidgin doesn't look like a KDE
program. Pidgin doesn't use the KDE libraries, so it adds
disproportionately to the memory use by my computer.
I haven't found much that I want from my IM client that Kopete doesn't
supply. Does Pidgin to video? I'm not sure. There is OTR now for
Kopete which is nice, though I admit that the pidgin implementation is
better. I think Pidgin understands chatrooms better.
In what way do you find pidgin more convenient?
Michael
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
I understand that my suggestion is NOT a fix for your problem, but why do
you use kopete and not pidgin, for example? I used to use kopete, but
pidgin is much more convenient and user friendly, IMO.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de>
wrote:
OK, looks like kopete is completely unable to connect to kwallet. But why?
I have no idea.
Sorry. This should have nothing to do with the new location of kde.
Regards,
Stefan
Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Endrullis <stefan(a)endrullis.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Michael Hirsch schrieb:
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Stefan Endrullis
>>> <stefan(a)endrullis.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Do you only have this problem since your using the KDE3 PPA?
>>>>
>>>> Did your kwallet worked once?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe it worked until the move from /usr/kde3 to /opt/kde3. The
>>> laptop has only ever used the KDE3 PPA archives. In fact, I
>>> installed
>>> ubuntu and immediately added the PPA archive as the easiest way to
>>> get
>>> a working KDE 3.5. Every time I've started with Kubuntu and then
>>> tried to put KDE 3.5 on it I've had problems.
>>>
>>
>> Hm, I don't know if there are new bugs in the new KDE packages (using
>> /opt/kde3)
>> which only occur on systems with 32 bit.
>> It might well be that you've lost some essential packages during the
>> last updates
>> when the PPA was inconsistent.
>>
>> You could check the following:
>> - is the DCOP server running? test: install kdcop and start it -> you
>> should see
>> "kwalletmanager" listed in kdcop
>> - what happens if you rename .kde (or is it .kde3 now?) in your home
>> directory? can
>> you work with kwallet again when KDE is using a new configuration?
>> That would
>> mean that something is wrong with your kwallet file, e.g., file
>> permissions.
>>
>
> dcop is running and shows both kwalletmanager and kopete. Konqueror
> can use the wallet for passwords w/o trouble. But kopete still can't
> use it.
>
> Maybe this weekend I'll get time to try messing with my .kde3 file.
> This is my work machine so I'll need to be very careful.
>
Oh, I didn't know that your kwallet works with other programs. Than it
wouldn't make
much sense to rename ~/.kde3, since your KDE configuration seems to be
OK. What happens
if you open kwallet and navigate to Kopete->Passwords->{some account}.
Can you unhide
the content of the nodes (see the passwords)? If you know all kopete
passwords, you
can also remove the "Kopete" node in kwallet and try to enter the
passwords again via
kopete.
So I went into my wallet and deleted the kopete folder. All the
passwords were there but I deleted them anyway.
I get the exact same error when I run kopete. I complains that it
can't save them securely and offers an insecure save. I say no to
insecure save and have to enter the passwords.
2:42 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Apart from the fact that the contact list in pidgin is much more space-consuming
I'm still missing very important features in pidgin, e.g., the GPG plugin. And
OTR is not really an alternative since it does not support encrypted off-line
messages.
Regards,
Stefan
6:36 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
Hi Stefan,
I've been loosely following your thread, and I think there is one thing
you have not yet tried.
In ~/.kde3/share/config, there is a file named kopeterc And also, in
~/.kde3/share/apps/, there is a folder named kopete. Can you try moving
both the file and the folder to a backup folder somewhere, and try the
Kopete Kwallet functions again? It is possible that kopete somehow put
the full path to kwallet files into its own configuration files, and
therefore cannot find Kwallet at the new prefix.
If this doesn't work, simply move your backed up file and folder to
their original locations, no harm done.
Tim
Stefan Endrullis wrote:
Apart from the fact that the contact list in pidgin is
much more space-consuming
I'm still missing very important features in pidgin, e.g., the GPG plugin. And
OTR is not really an alternative since it does not support encrypted off-line
messages.
Regards,
Stefan
22 Mar
22 Mar
10:07 p.m.
New subject: Compiz broken?
So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it says
"already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Ben
10:13 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to enable
Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
(http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is next
on my list of problems to deal with.
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
So I finally found some time to (try and) set up
compiz on my laptop
again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it says
"already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Ben
10:22 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was a bug filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then fails because:
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you
attempting to enable
Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
(http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is
next on my list of problems to deal with.
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it
> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ben
>
>
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386 system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was a bug
filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then fails because:
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you
attempting to enable
Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
(http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is
next on my list of problems to deal with.
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it
> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ben
>
>
23 Mar
23 Mar
3:09 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Tim,
yeah, it's a custom i386 kernel. If you need any help with fixing this,
let me know what I can do.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386 system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was a bug
filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then fails because:
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
> Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to enable
> Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
>
> At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
> simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
> (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is
> next on my list of problems to deal with.
>
> Tim
>
> B. Buchli wrote:
>
>> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
>> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
>> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
>> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
>> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it
>> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
25 Mar
25 Mar
7:02 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Hi Ben,
I believe I have fixed the problem--why don't you give it a try and see
if it works properly on your end as well. :-)
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
yeah, it's a custom i386 kernel. If you need any help with fixing
this, let me know what I can do.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386 system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was a bug
filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then fails
because:
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
> Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to enable
> Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
>
> At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
> simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
> (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is
> next on my list of problems to deal with.
>
> Tim
>
> B. Buchli wrote:
>
>> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
>> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
>> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
>> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
>> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it
>> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
8:40 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Tim,
thanks a lot. Will give it a shot tonight, and let you know asap!
Ben
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Timothy Pearson <
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Hi Ben,
I believe I have fixed the problem--why don't you give it a try and see if
it works properly on your end as well. :-)
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
yeah, it's a custom i386 kernel. If you need any help with fixing this,
let me know what I can do.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386 system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was a bug
filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then fails because:
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to enable
Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
(http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That bug is
next on my list of problems to deal with.
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my laptop
again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now. If I
install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the sluggish gtk
window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly because it
says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Ben
26 Mar
26 Mar
8:13 p.m.
New subject: kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
I folks!
Today I updated my sources.list to the new repository at launchpad, but still
"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3" wants to install kde4 packages like
guidance manager, etc. - see attached log file :(
Is it possible to install KDE3 on Intrepid AMD64 at the moment or should I wait some more
weeks for the package getting "production ready"?
And: What about bug reports - should they be filed at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers? There is no 'submit bug report link'
on that site...
Cheers,
Andreas
--
Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95
Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a
8:27 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
Hi Andreas,
No, kubuntu-desktop-kde3 is not supposed to install KDE4 packages. I
have been doing some work related to stripping them out, but obviously
did not catch all of them.
If you would like to, I could fix this problem a lot faster if you made
a list of the incorrect (KDE4) packages that are being installed.
I am not familiar enough with Launchpad yet to know for sure, but I
guess that you would file a standard Launchpad bug and then it would be
assigned to me. I will verify this shortly; in the meantime just use my
bugtracker here: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net
Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Tim
a-v-a-t-a-r(a)gmx.net wrote:
I folks!
Today I updated my sources.list to the new repository at launchpad, but still
"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3" wants to install kde4 packages like
guidance manager, etc. - see attached log file :(
Is it possible to install KDE3 on Intrepid AMD64 at the moment or should I wait some more
weeks for the package getting "production ready"?
And: What about bug reports - should they be filed at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers? There is no 'submit bug report link'
on that site...
Cheers,
Andreas
27 Mar
27 Mar
9:46 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
Hi Tim,
thanks for your quick response - here it comes:
guidance-power-manager
kde-guidance-powermanager
kde-icons-oxygen
kde-style-qtcurve
kdebase-runtime
kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdebase-runtime-data
kdebase-runtime-data-common
kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
kdelibs-bin
kdelibs5
kdelibs5-data
kdepimlibs-data
kdepimlibs5
kdesudo
gdebi-kde
kdm
khelpcenter
libkdecorations4
libplasma3
python-kde4
Best regards,
Andreas
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:27:11 -0500
Von: Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
An: kubuntu-kde3.5-users(a)pearsoncomputing.net
Betreff: Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed
with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
Hi Andreas,
No, kubuntu-desktop-kde3 is not supposed to install KDE4 packages. I
have been doing some work related to stripping them out, but obviously
did not catch all of them.
If you would like to, I could fix this problem a lot faster if you made
a list of the incorrect (KDE4) packages that are being installed.
I am not familiar enough with Launchpad yet to know for sure, but I
guess that you would file a standard Launchpad bug and then it would be
assigned to me. I will verify this shortly; in the meantime just use my
bugtracker here: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net
Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Tim
a-v-a-t-a-r(a)gmx.net wrote:
--
Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen:
http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01
I folks!
Today I updated my sources.list to the new repository at launchpad, but
still
"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3" wants to install kde4 packages
like guidance manager, etc. - see attached log file :(
Is it possible to install KDE3 on Intrepid AMD64 at the moment or should
I wait
some more weeks for the package getting "production ready"?
And: What about bug reports - should they be filed at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers? There is no 'submit bug report link'
on that
site...
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
29 Mar
29 Mar
3:09 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
Thanks for the list! I have updated kubuntu-desktop-kde3 so that it no
longer installs these packages.
If you find any other problems with it please let me know.
Tim
Frank Mohr wrote:
Hi Tim,
thanks for your quick response - here it comes:
guidance-power-manager
kde-guidance-powermanager
kde-icons-oxygen
kde-style-qtcurve
kdebase-runtime
kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdebase-runtime-data
kdebase-runtime-data-common
kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
kdelibs-bin
kdelibs5
kdelibs5-data
kdepimlibs-data
kdepimlibs5
kdesudo
gdebi-kde
kdm
khelpcenter
libkdecorations4
libplasma3
python-kde4
Best regards,
Andreas
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:27:11 -0500
Von: Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
An: kubuntu-kde3.5-users(a)pearsoncomputing.net
Betreff: Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed
with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
Hi Andreas,
No, kubuntu-desktop-kde3 is not supposed to install KDE4 packages. I
have been doing some work related to stripping them out, but obviously
did not catch all of them.
If you would like to, I could fix this problem a lot faster if you made
a list of the incorrect (KDE4) packages that are being installed.
I am not familiar enough with Launchpad yet to know for sure, but I
guess that you would file a standard Launchpad bug and then it would be
assigned to me. I will verify this shortly; in the meantime just use my
bugtracker here: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net
Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Tim
a-v-a-t-a-r(a)gmx.net wrote:
I folks!
Today I updated my sources.list to the new repository at launchpad, but
still "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3" wants to install
kde4 packages
like guidance manager, etc. - see attached log file :(
Is it possible to install KDE3 on Intrepid AMD64
at the moment or should
I wait some more weeks for the package getting "production
ready"?
And: What about bug reports - should they be
filed at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers? There is no 'submit bug
report link' on that
site...
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
>
26 Mar
26 Mar
11:15 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kde4 packages like guidance manager get installed with kubuntu-desktop-kde3
2009/3/26 <a-v-a-t-a-r(a)gmx.net>et>:
I folks!
Today I updated my sources.list to the new repository at launchpad, but still
"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3" wants to install kde4 packages like
guidance manager, etc. - see attached log file :(
Is it possible to install KDE3 on Intrepid AMD64 at the moment or should I wait some more
weeks for the package getting "production ready"?
I've been using it on my Dual ADM64 system for months. Yes, there are
a few kde4 packages that get installed, but they don't seem to cause
problems.
Michael
3 Apr
3 Apr
4:41 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Ok, it looks like compiz is broken for intel x server, and it's not
related to the kde3 repository.
If anybody has gotten compiz working reliably without hanging on a
lenovo t400 please let me know how you did it. ;-)
Tim, would it be possible to get k9copy and fusion-icon for kde3?
Thanks a lot!
Ben
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
thanks a lot. Will give it a shot tonight, and let you know asap!
Ben
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>> wrote:
Hi Ben,
I believe I have fixed the problem--why don't you give it a try
and see if it works properly on your end as well. :-)
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
yeah, it's a custom i386 kernel. If you need any help with
fixing this, let me know what I can do.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>
wrote:
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason
my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386
system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
Tim,
thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was
a bug
filed.
If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following
dependencies:
compiz-core
compiz-plugins
compiz-wrapper
libdecoration0
libemeraldengine0-kde3
note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then
fails because:
E:
/var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is
also in
package compiz-core-kde3
I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
Timothy Pearson wrote:
> Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to
> enable
> Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
>
> At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
> simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
> (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That
> bug is
> next on my list of problems to deal with.
>
> Tim
>
> B. Buchli wrote:
>
>> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my
>> laptop
>> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now.
>> If I
>> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the
>> sluggish gtk
>> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
>> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly
>> because it
>> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
8 Apr
8 Apr
8:32 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Compiz broken?
Hi Ben,
I generally stay away from Compiz and Intel hardware, as the Intel
drivers are generally horrid as far as fancy hardware acceleration goes..
k9copy-kde3 is now in the repository (I even updated the version to the
latest). fusion-icon-kde3 is next on my list of things to do.
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
Ok, it looks like compiz is broken for intel x server,
and it's not
related to the kde3 repository.
If anybody has gotten compiz working reliably without hanging on a
lenovo t400 please let me know how you did it. ;-)
Tim, would it be possible to get k9copy and fusion-icon for kde3?
Thanks a lot!
Ben
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
thanks a lot. Will give it a shot tonight, and let you know asap!
Ben
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>>
wrote:
Hi Ben,
I believe I have fixed the problem--why don't you give it a try
and see if it works properly on your end as well. :-)
Tim
B. Buchli wrote:
Tim,
yeah, it's a custom i386 kernel. If you need any help with
fixing this, let me know what I can do.
Thanks a lot!
Ben
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net <mailto:kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net>
wrote:
Hi Ben,
You're right! Are you running an i386 kernel? For some reason
my amd64
system shows the correct -kde3 dependencies, while my i386
system shows
the same incorrect dependencies as yours.
I'll add this info to the bug report so I don't forget...
Tim
> Tim,
> thanks for your response, and I'm sorry I didn't know there was
> a bug
> filed.
> If I try and install emerald-kde3 I get the following
> dependencies:
> compiz-core
> compiz-plugins
> compiz-wrapper
> libdecoration0
> libemeraldengine0-kde3
>
> note that there is only one -kde3... the installation then
> fails because:
> E:
>
> /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-core_1%3a0.7.8-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb:
> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz', which is
> also in
> package compiz-core-kde3
>
> I am pretty sure I have installed all the necessary packages, and
> believe that the problem is the non-kde3 dependencies.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Ben
>
> Timothy Pearson wrote:
>
>> Have you installed emerald-kde3? How are you attempting to
>> enable
>> Emerald? Does the rest of Compiz work properly?
>>
>> At the moment, -kde3 compiz and emerald cannot be installed
>> simultaneously with non-kde3 compiz and emerald due to bug 57
>> (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=57). That
>> bug is
>> next on my list of problems to deal with.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> B. Buchli wrote:
>>
>>> So I finally found some time to (try and) set up compiz on my
>>> laptop
>>> again. It used to work on 8.04, but seems to be broken now.
>>> If I
>>> install only compiz stuff with -kde3, I can use only the
>>> sluggish gtk
>>> window decorator. If I try and install emerald I have non-kde3
>>> dependencies. This of course does not install cleanly
>>> because it
>>> says "already in package XY." Any help would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
23 Mar
23 Mar
10:08 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] kopete can't talk to my kwallet
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Hi Stefan,
I've been loosely following your thread, and I think there is one thing you
have not yet tried.
In ~/.kde3/share/config, there is a file named kopeterc And also, in
~/.kde3/share/apps/, there is a folder named kopete. Can you try moving
both the file and the folder to a backup folder somewhere, and try the
Kopete Kwallet functions again? It is possible that kopete somehow put the
full path to kwallet files into its own configuration files, and therefore
cannot find Kwallet at the new prefix.
If this doesn't work, simply move your backed up file and folder to their
original locations, no harm done.
Thanks Tim. That wasn't the solution, but it led me to the solution.
Poking around those config files, I found that kopete was listed in
kwallet as "Always Deny", so of course it wasn't getting in.
I don't know how that happened, but it isn't happening anymore. I
wouldn't have found it without your suggestion.
Thanks
Michael
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