29 Apr
2020
29 Apr
'20
2:25 p.m.
I'm a long-time TDE user who just updated to the final TDE 14.0.8 from
the 14.0.8 development version. I'm using a Debian sid version with
kernel 5.6.0-7.1-liquorix-amd64 which has been working well. The update
went well and everything appears to be working fine (not too surprised
there as the development versions were good) but there is an issue at
startup.
There are 3 notices that come up that indicate the r4-xdg-update script
has not completed successfully. I've restarted about 6 or 7 times but it
hasn't gone away.
It says
"error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is some
relatively simple editing of some TDE configuration files. Please advise.
Thank you in advance for any assistance rendered.
L. McCarty
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29 Apr
2:58 p.m.
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It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is some relatively simple
editing of some TDE
configuration files. Please advise.
L. McCarty
Hi L.,
yes problems with test 9 are sort of expected, as we wrote in the release notes as well.
Thanks for getting in touch.
Check the following file "~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" and
check the contents of the
"~/.local/share/applications" folder. I think it is possible/likely you have
both "kde-*.desktop" and "tde-*.desktop"
files for the ones listed in your email. For example 'kde-kbiff.desktop' and
'tde-kbiff.desktop'.
To fix this problem you can rename kde-* files to tde-* files and edit
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu"
so to rename or remove any reference like
"<Filename>kde-*.desktop</Filename>".
Depending on your edit history and system setup, the same file could be names in many
different sections, mostly
"includes" and "excludes" ones, so you need to be sure to see where
the file is required.
The starting scripts automatically does the rename in case it is safe to do so, otherwise
it fails and requires user
intervention to avoid messing things up, as in your case.
Let us know how it goes and if you need more support.
Cheers
Michele
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3:27 p.m.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Hi L.,
yes problems with test 9 are sort of expected, as we wrote in the
release notes as well. Thanks for getting in touch.
Check the following file
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" and check the contents
of the "~/.local/share/applications" folder. I think it is
possible/likely you have both "kde-*.desktop" and "tde-*.desktop"
files
for the ones listed in your email. For example 'kde-kbiff.desktop' and
'tde-kbiff.desktop'.
To fix this problem you can rename kde-* files to tde-*
files and edit
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" so to rename or remove
any reference like "<Filename>kde-*.desktop</Filename>".
Depending on your edit history and system setup, the
same file could be
names in many different sections, mostly "includes" and "excludes"
ones, so you need to be sure to see where the file is required.
The starting scripts automatically does the rename in case it is safe
to do so, otherwise it fails and requires user intervention to avoid
messing things up, as in your case.
Let us know how it goes and if you need more support.
Well, I do not have the OP's problem. But I was curious.
jonesy@nix5:~$ cat $HOME/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
"http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd">
<Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Utilities</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>Editors</Name>
<Layout>
<Merge type="files" />
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
<Filename>tde-kate.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>tde-KEdit.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Include>
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
</Include>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>KDE</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>Editors</Name>
<Layout/>
<Exclude>
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
</Exclude>
</Menu>
</Menu>
</Menu>
</Menu>
jonesy@nix5:~$ locate kwrite.desktop
/opt/trinity/share/applications/tde/kwrite.desktop
/usr/share/applications/org.kde.kwrite.desktop
So, would it be proper for me to replace the 3 instances of
"org.kde.kwrite.desktop"
with
"kwrite.desktop"
in applications-tdemenuedit.menu ??
The contents of my "~/.local/share/applications" appear 'clean'.
Thanks you,
Jonesy
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3:52 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 17:27:03 Marvin Jones via trinity-users
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Michele Calgaro via trinity-users
wrote:
You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now) stuff installed
that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the name and location of
org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such
files are probably correct and do not need to be renamed in the menu.
Cheers
--
Slávek
Hi L.,
yes problems with test 9 are sort of expected, as we wrote in the
release notes as well. Thanks for getting in touch.
Check the following file
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" and check the contents
of the "~/.local/share/applications" folder. I think it is
possible/likely you have both "kde-*.desktop" and "tde-*.desktop"
files
for the ones listed in your email. For example 'kde-kbiff.desktop' and
'tde-kbiff.desktop'.
To fix this problem you can rename kde-* files to tde-* files and edit
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" so to rename or remove
any reference like "<Filename>kde-*.desktop</Filename>".
Depending on your edit history and system setup, the same file could be
names in many different sections, mostly "includes" and "excludes"
ones, so you need to be sure to see where the file is required.
The starting scripts automatically does the rename in case it is safe
to do so, otherwise it fails and requires user intervention to avoid
messing things up, as in your case.
Let us know how it goes and if you need more support.
Well, I do not have the OP's problem. But I was curious.
jonesy@nix5:~$ cat $HOME/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
"http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd">
<Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Utilities</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>Editors</Name>
<Layout>
<Merge type="files" />
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
<Filename>tde-kate.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>tde-KEdit.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Include>
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
</Include>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>KDE</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>Editors</Name>
<Layout/>
<Exclude>
<Filename>org.kde.kwrite.desktop</Filename> <<== !!!
</Exclude>
</Menu>
</Menu>
</Menu>
</Menu>
jonesy@nix5:~$ locate kwrite.desktop
/opt/trinity/share/applications/tde/kwrite.desktop
/usr/share/applications/org.kde.kwrite.desktop
So, would it be proper for me to replace the 3 instances of
"org.kde.kwrite.desktop"
with
"kwrite.desktop"
in applications-tdemenuedit.menu ??
The contents of my "~/.local/share/applications" appear 'clean'.
Thanks you,
Jonesy
5:21 p.m.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now) stuff installed
that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the name and location of
org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such
files are probably correct and do not need to be renamed in the menu.
I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in any
KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
Thanks!
Jonesy
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6:28 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin Jones via trinity-users
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5 is
not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some dependency.
Cheers
--
Slávek
You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is
called now) stuff
installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the name
and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches KDE4 /
KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not need to be
renamed in the menu.
I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in any
KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
Thanks!
Jonesy
26 May
26 May
6:53 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin Jones
via trinity-users
wrote:
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow fix? I
have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele Calgaro's
instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all other
desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as possible, I am
running pure TDE right now, except for some pan-Linux items that do not bring
in KDE dependencies, etc.
It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live with until it
gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to TDE working without a
hitch. Everything else works fine, no problems.
On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand times better
than any other desktop out there.
Bill
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5 is
not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some dependency.
Cheers You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is
called now) stuff
installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the name
and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches KDE4 /
KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not need to be
renamed in the menu.
I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in any
KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
Thanks!
Jonesy 
7:17 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
Hi Bill,
can you post the error message once again?
Nik
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin
Jones via trinity-users
wrote:
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow fix? I
have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele Calgaro's
instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all other
desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as possible, I am
running pure TDE right now, except for some pan-Linux items that do not bring
in KDE dependencies, etc.
It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live with until it
gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to TDE working without a
hitch. Everything else works fine, no problems.
On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand times better
than any other desktop out there.
Bill On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5 is
not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some dependency.
Cheers You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is
called now) stuff
installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the name
and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches KDE4 /
KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not need to be
renamed in the menu.
I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in any
KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
Thanks!
Jonesy
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7:32 p.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:17:10 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
The error message only comes up when I boot into the Trinity Desktop, but
before I have any tools with which to capture a screenshot, or even to copy
the text. I would have to take a photo with my phone, then transfer that to
my desktop, etc.
However, I believe other people, earlier in the thread, quoted the gist of the
error message.
quoting from L.S. McCarty's email (2020.04.29):
It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I get a series of three messages, which say more or less the same thing. Next
time I reboot, I will try to take a photo; but since my system is stable
otherwise, you might be waiting for a long while. Rather than relying on my
memory, there are probably others who can quote it more exactly.
Bill
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On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko
wrote:
Hi Bill,
can you post the error message once again?
Nik
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin
Jones via trinity-users
wrote:
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele
Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that
file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all other
desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as possible, I
am running pure TDE right now, except for some pan-Linux items that do
not bring in KDE dependencies, etc.
It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live with
until it gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to TDE working
without a hitch. Everything else works fine, no problems.
On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand times
better than any other desktop out there.
Bill On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
>You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now) stuff
> installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the
> name and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches
> KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not
> need to be renamed in the menu.
I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in
any KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
Thanks!
Jonesy
Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5
is not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some
dependency.
Cheers
7:38 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 12:32:16 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:17:10 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Oh, this one. You have to execute r14-xgd-update by hand, then it goes away. At least this
was what I did :)
Nik
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
The error message only comes up when I boot into the Trinity Desktop, but
before I have any tools with which to capture a screenshot, or even to copy
the text. I would have to take a photo with my phone, then transfer that to
my desktop, etc.
However, I believe other people, earlier in the thread, quoted the gist of the
error message.
quoting from L.S. McCarty's email (2020.04.29):
It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I get a series of three messages, which say more or less the same thing. Next
time I reboot, I will try to take a photo; but since my system is stable
otherwise, you might be waiting for a long while. Rather than relying on my
memory, there are probably others who can quote it more exactly. On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko
wrote:
Hi Bill,
can you post the error message once again?
Nik
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin
Jones via trinity-users
wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
> >You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now) stuff
> > installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the
> > name and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches
> > KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not
> > need to be renamed in the menu.
>
> I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
> with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
> I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled in
> any KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
>
> A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
>
> Thanks!
> Jonesy
Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5
is not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some
dependency.
Cheers
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele
Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that
file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all other
desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as possible, I
am running pure TDE right now, except for some pan-Linux items that do
not bring in KDE dependencies, etc.
It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live with
until it gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to TDE working
without a hitch. Everything else works fine, no problems.
On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand times
better than any other desktop out there.
Bill
Bill
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William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
forgot: might be that it has to be run by root, too.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:17:10 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Oh, this one. You have to execute r14-xgd-update by hand, then it goes away. At least
this was what I did :)
Nik Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
The error message only comes up when I boot into the Trinity Desktop, but
before I have any tools with which to capture a screenshot, or even to copy
the text. I would have to take a photo with my phone, then transfer that to
my desktop, etc.
However, I believe other people, earlier in the thread, quoted the gist of the
error message.
quoting from L.S. McCarty's email (2020.04.29):
It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I get a series of three messages, which say more or less the same thing. Next
time I reboot, I will try to take a photo; but since my system is stable
otherwise, you might be waiting for a long while. Rather than relying on my
memory, there are probably others who can quote it more exactly. On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko
wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin Jones via trinity-users
>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
> > >You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now) stuff
> > > installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items because the
> > > name and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file probably matches
> > > KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such files are probably correct and do not
> > > need to be renamed in the menu.
> >
> > I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was built
> > with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+ years ago.
> > I can't think of installing any "off brand" programs that pulled
in
> > any KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
> >
> > A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jonesy
>
> Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from KDE5
> is not installed. It probably had to be installed there with some
> dependency.
>
> Cheers
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele
Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that
file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all other
desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as possible, I
am running pure TDE right now, except for some pan-Linux items that do
not bring in KDE dependencies, etc.
It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live with
until it gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to TDE working
without a hitch. Everything else works fine, no problems.
On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand times
better than any other desktop out there.
Bill
Hi Bill,
can you post the error message once again?
Nik
Bill
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On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:41:13 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 21:38:46 +0200
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
Oh, you mean just change the permissions on that file? That might be it.
Bill
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Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 12:32:16 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
forgot: might be that it has to be run by root, too.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:17:10 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
Oh, this one. You have to execute r14-xgd-update by hand, then it goes
away. At least this was what I did :)
Nik Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin Jones via
> > trinity-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > >You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now)
> > > > stuff installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items
> > > > because the name and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop file
> > > > probably matches KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such files are
> > > > probably correct and do not need to be renamed in the menu.
> > >
> > > I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine was
> > > built with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD -- maybe 3+
> > > years ago. I can't think of installing any "off brand"
programs
> > > that pulled in any KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
> > >
> > > A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Jonesy
> >
> > Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite from
> > KDE5 is not installed. It probably had to be installed there with
> > some dependency.
> >
> > Cheers
>
> Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a
> slow fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also
> follow Michele Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines
> (from kde to tde) in that file:
>
> ~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
>
> However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
>
> I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged all
> other desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As much as
> possible, I am running pure TDE right now, except for some
> pan-Linux items that do not bring in KDE dependencies, etc.
>
> It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live
> with until it gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to
> TDE working without a hitch. Everything else works fine, no
> problems.
>
> On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand
> times better than any other desktop out there.
>
> Bill
Hi Bill,
can you post the error message once again?
Nik
The error message only comes up when I boot into the Trinity Desktop,
but before I have any tools with which to capture a screenshot, or even
to copy the text. I would have to take a photo with my phone, then
transfer that to my desktop, etc.
However, I believe other people, earlier in the thread, quoted the gist
of the error message.
quoting from L.S. McCarty's email (2020.04.29):
It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I get a series of three messages, which say more or less the same
thing. Next time I reboot, I will try to take a photo; but since my
system is stable otherwise, you might be waiting for a long while.
Rather than relying on my memory, there are probably others who can
quote it more exactly.
8:12 p.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:45:47 William Morder wrote:
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:41:13 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Something more to report: I had a look inside, and found that this file seems
to be getting changed *back* to kde (that is, after I had manually changed
all the lines to tde).
/var/tmp/tdecache-<USER>/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
I tend to make shortcuts for myself, so just copy in the correct lines;
therefore, I *know* that I changed these lines from kde to tde, but now they
are changed back to kde.
Any ideas about how this might have happened?
Bill
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Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 21:38:46 +0200
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
Oh, you mean just change the permissions on that file? That might be it.
Bill Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 12:32:16 -0700
William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
forgot: might be that it has to be run by root, too. On Tuesday 26 May 2020 12:17:10 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2020 Tue, 26 May 11:53:49 -0700
>
> William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > On Wednesday 29 April 2020 11:28:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 19:21:33 Marvin Jones via
> > > trinity-users
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > > >You seem to have some KDE4 / KDE5 (or as it is called now)
> > > > > stuff installed that appear in the menu besides TDE items
> > > > > because the name and location of org.kde.kwrite.desktop
> > > > > file probably matches KDE4 / KDE5. Therefore, such files
> > > > > are probably correct and do not need to be renamed in the
> > > > > menu.
> > > >
> > > > I should have no KDE4 / KDE5 stuff installed. This machine
> > > > was built with a Trinty Ubuntu 16.04 installation DVD --
> > > > maybe 3+ years ago. I can't think of installing any "off
> > > > brand" programs that pulled in any KDE4 / KDE5 stuff.
> > > >
> > > > A curiosity. But, I will let sleeping dogs lie. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Jonesy
> > >
> > > Now I have looked and in the TDE LiveCD Ubuntu 16.04 kwrite
> > > from KDE5 is not installed. It probably had to be installed
> > > there with some dependency.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> >
> > Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a
> > slow fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also
> > follow Michele Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines
> > (from kde to tde) in that file:
> >
> > ~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
> >
> > However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
> >
> > I am running Devuan Ascii (= Debian Stretch), and I have purged
> > all other desktops and their spawn, notably KDE4 and KDE5. As
> > much as possible, I am running pure TDE right now, except for
> > some pan-Linux items that do not bring in KDE dependencies, etc.
> >
> > It is not a big problem; only a slight annoyance that I can live
> > with until it gets resolved. But now I am spoilt, as I am used to
> > TDE working without a hitch. Everything else works fine, no
> > problems.
> >
> > On the bright side: a slightly buggy TDE is still ten thousand
> > times better than any other desktop out there.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> can you post the error message once again?
>
> Nik
The error message only comes up when I boot into the Trinity Desktop,
but before I have any tools with which to capture a screenshot, or
even to copy the text. I would have to take a photo with my phone,
then transfer that to my desktop, etc.
However, I believe other people, earlier in the thread, quoted the
gist of the error message.
quoting from L.S. McCarty's email (2020.04.29):
It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text
below <Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I get a series of three messages, which say more or less the same
thing. Next time I reboot, I will try to take a photo; but since my
system is stable otherwise, you might be waiting for a long while.
Rather than relying on my memory, there are probably others who can
quote it more exactly.
Oh, this one. You have to execute r14-xgd-update by hand, then it goes
away. At least this was what I did :)
Nik 
8:33 p.m.
On Tue, 26 May 2020 13:12:14 -0700
"William Morder via trinity-users"
<trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
I tend to make shortcuts for myself, so just copy in
the correct lines;
therefore, I *know* that I changed these lines from kde to tde, but now they
are changed back to kde.
Any ideas about how this might have happened?
Maybe you missed some KDE5 (or even KDE4) bit when you were
uninstalling things?
E. Liddell
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On Tue, 26 May 2020 11:53:49 -0700
"William Morder via trinity-users"
<trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug?
or even a slow fix? I
have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele Calgaro's
instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
Are the menu entries still flagged if you delete then recreate them?
Here are some suggestions of last resort:
The hacky fix is to trick the script into thinking that it's already run to
completion by editing ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals. The section you
want would look like this:
[R14 XDG Updates]
Updated=false
Version=201412270
Flip the "Updated" key to "true" and the script shouldn't fire
again until you
update TDE and it installs a new version of the script.
The even hackier fix is to edit starttde and prevent the script from running
at all.
Don't do either of these if you care about the minor housekeeping
fixes the script makes. They are not the "correct" answer, just a way of
getting the script to shut up if everything else fails.
E. Liddell
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9:54 p.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 13:33:47 E. Liddell wrote:
I cannot find anything from KDE4/5 in my system. It could be that there are
some configuration files (or what-not) lying round, since I used to run KDE3,
then adapted my preferences to TDE. But so far as I can tell, there is
nothing of KDE anywhere, in either programs or dependencies.
As for the hacky and hackier tricks ... I'll see if they help. For now, this
is just an annoying bug; it slows down my startup time with error messages,
but that is about it. Everything else runs fine, as usual.
The only real bother is why something would overwrite my changes with KDE
again. If that is not a security issue, then I suppose that I can live with
the bug.
Thanks for everybody's observations and suggestions.
Bill
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On Tue, 26 May 2020 11:53:49 -0700
"William Morder via trinity-users"
<trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Has anybody
yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele
Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in that
file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
Are the menu entries still flagged if you delete then recreate them?
Here are some suggestions of last resort:
The hacky fix is to trick the script into thinking that it's already run to
completion by editing ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals. The section you
want would look like this:
[R14 XDG Updates]
Updated=false
Version=201412270
Flip the "Updated" key to "true" and the script shouldn't fire
again until
you update TDE and it installs a new version of the script.
The even hackier fix is to edit starttde and prevent the script from
running at all.
Don't do either of these if you care about the minor housekeeping
fixes the script makes. They are not the "correct" answer, just a way of
getting the script to shut up if everything else fails.
E. Liddell
27 May
27 May
2:10 a.m.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:54 PM, William Morder via trinity-users
<trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 May 2020 13:33:47 E. Liddell wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 May 2020 11:53:49 -0700
> > "William Morder via trinity-users"
> trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
> > > Has anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
> > > fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow Michele
> > > Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to tde) in
that
> > > file:
> > > ~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
> > > However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
>
> > Are the menu entries still flagged if you delete then recreate them?
> > Here are some suggestions of last resort:
> > The hacky fix is to trick the script into thinking that it's already run to
> > completion by editing ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals. The section you
> > want would look like this:
> > [R14 XDG Updates]
> > Updated=false
> > Version=201412270
> > Flip the "Updated" key to "true" and the script
shouldn't fire again until
> > you update TDE and it installs a new version of the script.
> > The even hackier fix is to edit starttde and prevent the script from
> > running at all.
> > Don't do either of these if you care about the minor housekeeping
> > fixes the script makes. They are not the "correct" answer, just a way
of
> > getting the script to shut up if everything else fails.
> > E. Liddell
> I cannot find anything from KDE4/5 in my system. It could be that there are
> some configuration files (or what-not) lying round, since I used to run KDE3,
> then adapted my preferences to TDE. But so far as I can tell, there is
> nothing of KDE anywhere, in either programs or dependencies.
> As for the hacky and hackier tricks ... I'll see if they help. For now, this
> is just an annoying bug; it slows down my startup time with error messages,
> but that is about it. Everything else runs fine, as usual.
> The only real bother is why something would overwrite my changes with KDE
> again. If that is not a security issue, then I suppose that I can live with
> the bug.
> Thanks for everybody's observations and suggestions.
> Bill
Late commer, sorry for any redundancies,pendantic remarks. Debian stable (10) + TDE 14.0.8
(stable) afaikt:
Not a fan of installing Trinity from live cd's of some one elses making. My canonical
install distro ofchoice without Xinstalled (gui). Add TDE sources . No chance of
mistakesby others, Yikes.
Purging everything re KDE, does not ouch the home directory. If you are like me my home
directory lives on a separate hard drive through numerous installs of Trinity. Trinity
changed all references from "K"to "T" long ago. I had some issues with
kmail.
Retiring my work station, moved to a laptop, added a fresh user, clean home dir, TDE14.0.8
is the
best yet.
----
greg
2:38 a.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 19:10:47 gomadtroll wrote:
So far, the netinstall Devuan CD works best for me, but it doesn't offer TDE
as one of its default choices for desktop; only KDE, Mate, XFCE, LXDE, etc.
Other options to install TDE from a CD or DVD have been found wanting:
ExeGnuLinux, Q4OS and others have been tested, but in one way or another they
all misbehave or fall short of my expectations.
My Christmas wish for this year is the same as last year (if Santa reads the
mailing list); which is a Devuan netinstall CD with TDE offered as a default
choice.
There are ways TDE could be installed using the netinstall CD, but it would
require my adding the sources.list manually, from the command-line; or, I
could specify the location of my own TDE packages, but my present setup would
make that option too cumbersome. So for now, I install using Mate, and
install TDE (as well as Open Office) from within Mate, which is the least
irksome of other DEs.
In any case, I can put up with a few minor bugs or issues, as I could never
have kept patience with using another desktop. And if I had to keep using the
newer KDE Plasma krap, I would probably have given up on using computers
altogether, and instead I would now be living in a cave somewhere up in the
mountains.
Bill
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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:54 PM, William Morder via trinity-users
<trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 26
May 2020 13:33:47 E. Liddell wrote:
I cannot find anything from KDE4/5 in my system. It could be that there
are some configuration files (or what-not) lying round, since I used to
run KDE3, then adapted my preferences to TDE. But so far as I can tell,
there is nothing of KDE anywhere, in either programs or dependencies.
As for the hacky and hackier tricks ... I'll see if they help. For now,
this is just an annoying bug; it slows down my startup time with error
messages, but that is about it. Everything else runs fine, as usual.
The only real bother is why something would overwrite my changes with KDE
again. If that is not a security issue, then I suppose that I can live
with the bug.
Thanks for everybody's observations and suggestions.
Bill
Late commer, sorry for any redundancies,pendantic remarks. Debian stable
(10) + TDE 14.0.8 (stable) afaikt:
Not a fan of installing Trinity from live cd's of some one elses making. My
canonical install distro ofchoice without Xinstalled (gui). Add TDE sources
. No chance of mistakesby others, Yikes.
Purging everything re KDE, does not ouch the home directory. If you are
like me my home directory lives on a separate hard drive through numerous
installs of Trinity. Trinity changed all references from "K"to "T"
long
ago. I had some issues with kmail.
Retiring my work station, moved to a laptop, added a fresh user, clean home
dir, TDE14.0.8 is the best yet.
----
greg On Tue, 26 May 2020 11:53:49 -0700
"William Morder via trinity-users"
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Has
anybody yet come up with a quick fix for this bug? or even a slow
fix? I have read all the comments in this thread, and also follow
Michele Calgaro's instructions about changing the lines (from kde to
tde) in that file:
~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
However, when I reboot, I still get the same error messages.
Are the menu entries still flagged if you delete then recreate them?
Here are some suggestions of last resort:
The hacky fix is to trick the script into thinking that it's already
run to completion by editing ~/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals. The
section you want would look like this:
[R14 XDG Updates]
Updated=false
Version=201412270
Flip the "Updated" key to "true" and the script shouldn't fire
again
until you update TDE and it installs a new version of the script.
The even hackier fix is to edit starttde and prevent the script from
running at all.
Don't do either of these if you care about the minor housekeeping
fixes the script makes. They are not the "correct" answer, just a way
of getting the script to shut up if everything else fails.
E. Liddell
2:29 a.m.
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The only real bother is why something would overwrite
my changes with KDE again. If that is not a security issue,
then I suppose that I can live with the bug.
Thanks for everybody's observations and suggestions.
Hi Bill,
what version of TDE are you using? If you are using a version before R14.0.8, that fix to
change to tde-* would
probably not work fine and wouldn't be surprised you get kde-* entries back in the
file when you edit the TDE menu.
Cheers
Michele
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On Tuesday 26 May 2020 19:29:23 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Running Devuan Ascii here, and I use Slavek's repository, with r14.09 and some
r14.08 packages. This repository generally works best for me.
Bill
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The only real
bother is why something would overwrite my changes with KDE
again. If that is not a security issue, then I suppose that I can live
with the bug.
Thanks for everybody's observations and suggestions.
Hi Bill,
what version of TDE are you using? If you are using a version before
R14.0.8, that fix to change to tde-* would probably not work fine and
wouldn't be surprised you get kde-* entries back in the file when you edit
the TDE menu.
Cheers
Michele
6:36 a.m.
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Running Devuan Ascii here, and I use Slavek's
repository, with r14.09 and some r14.08 packages. This repository
generally works best for me.
Ok, we refer to it as Slavek's PSB :-)
In that case you will need to find out what is modifying that file back to kde-* each
time, because normally it shouldn'
t.
Cheers
Michele
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31 May
3:56 p.m.
On Tuesday 26 May 2020 23:36:10 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Thanks for the correction. I have added a note to my sources.list so that I
remember to refer to it as such.
Running Devuan
Ascii here, and I use Slavek's repository, with r14.09 and
some r14.08 packages. This repository generally works best for me.
Ok, we refer to it as Slavek's PSB :-) In that case you will need to find out what is
modifying that file back to
kde-* each time, because normally it shouldn' t.
Cheers
Michele
So, I have a new detail to report. I rebooted my system, but before I did, I
checked those files:
/home/<USER>/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit
/var/tmp/tdecache-<USER>/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
And everything seemed correct (that is, there were no kde items). In the first
file, the menu list, tde was in the <include> category, and kde was among
the <exclude> items. When I rebooted, I checked again, and everything had
been changed back to kde in the second file (r14-xdg), and I got those same 3
error messages again.
I did, however, find a separate menu for both gnome and kde.
Earlier (before a previous reboot) I had tried removing a kde menu, and the
system rebooted about the same as usual, but when I got up and running, my
konqueror and kedit were both all messed up. (* I set them to start up when
the system boots, because I use them both to organize my work; but this is
too complicated to explain. Enough to say, I have been doing it like this
since early KDE3 days, about 2006 or so, and it has always worked great, and
I don't want to change....)
Out of these known factors, I would suppose that something overwrites this
file with kde krap between shutdown and boot, but I don't have a clue how to
go about searching for the culprit. All KDE and Gnome stuff have been
removed; everything is TDE, except for a few pan-Linux applications, but
these do not bring in any KDE or Gnome dependencies, and should not affect
the desktop; or so I like to think.
Any further observations or suggestions, how I my track down the cause of
these changes? Thanks for any help!
Bill
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8 Jun
4:57 a.m.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Hi L.,
yes problems with test 9 are sort of expected, as we wrote in the
release notes as well. Thanks for getting in touch.
Check the following file
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" and check the contents
of the "~/.local/share/applications" folder. I think it is
possible/likely you have both "kde-*.desktop" and "tde-*.desktop"
files
for the ones listed in your email. For example 'kde-kbiff.desktop' and
'tde-kbiff.desktop'.
To fix this problem you can rename kde-* files to tde-* files and edit
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" so to rename or remove
any reference like "<Filename>kde-*.desktop</Filename>".
Depending on your edit history and system setup, the same file could be
names in many different sections, mostly "includes" and "excludes"
ones, so you need to be sure to see where the file is required.
The starting scripts automatically does the rename in case it is safe
to do so, otherwise it fails and requires user intervention to avoid
messing things up, as in your case.
Let us know how it goes and if you need more support.
Hi,
I just did 'zypper dup -r trinity-noarch -r trinity-x86_64' on my OpenSuSE
system, and this is happening to me now, too. I have a few more questions
about doing this cleanup:
Should I presume that entries in the <Exclude> sections do not have to be
adjusted?
Should the kde-*.desktop entries be renamed or removed from the
<layout>...<merge type=* /> sections as well?
Does the conversion routine look through all subdirectories of
my /home/<user> directory for menu files, and process files other than
applications-tdemenuedit.menu? If so, ought I to remove various legacy and
backup files?. Also, I have some subdirectories with backups of various
configuration files from other user accounts; will it scan these as well and
fail, even though they're not used by my account?
Here's the tree of these files:
$ tree -fia|grep menuedit
./.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
./.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
./.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu.backup
./Documents/mail/older/share/config/kmenueditrc
./.kde/share/config/kmenueditrc
./rootHome/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
./rootHome/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu
./rootHome/.kde/share/config/kmenueditrc
./rootHome/.trinity/share/apps/RecentDocuments/applications-tdemenuedit.menu.desktop
./rootHome/.trinity/share/config/kmenueditrc
./tdemenuedit.txt
./.trinity/share/apps/kmenuedit
./.trinity/share/apps/kmenuedit/kmenueditui.rc
./.trinity/share/config/kmenueditrc
Thanks for your help.
Leslie
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4:26 p.m.
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Hi Leslie,
see comments below.
Should I presume that entries in the <Exclude>
sections do not have to be adjusted?
Items in <Exclude> are usually items that
have been manually edited and/or moved to different submenu groups.
Whether you need to remove them or not depends on your menu, I can't tell you exactly.
In any case, test9 will
consider those lines too.
Should the kde-*.desktop entries be renamed or removed from the
<layout>...<merge type=* /> sections as well?
Same answer here, depends
on your file. but again any kde-* entry will be considered.
Does the conversion routine look through all
subdirectories of my /home/<user> directory for menu files, and
process files other than applications-tdemenuedit.menu? If so, ought I to remove various
legacy and backup files?.
Also, I have some subdirectories with backups of various configuration files from other
user accounts; will it scan
these as well and fail, even though they're not used by my account
Rename
routine and test9 is specific for this file
"$USER_DIR/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu". It will
not look into subdirs and backup files.
Hope this help.
Cheers
Michele
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On 2020-06-09 11:26:12 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Hi Leslie,
see comments below.
Yes, thank you. All (presumably) is clear to me now.
Leslie
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Should I presume that entries in the
<Exclude> sections do not have to be
adjusted?
Items in <Exclude> are usually items that have been manually edited and/or
moved to different submenu groups. Whether you need to remove them or not
depends on your menu, I can't tell you exactly. In any case, test9 will
consider those lines too.
Should the kde-*.desktop entries be renamed or
removed from the
<layout>...<merge type=* /> sections as well?
Same answer here, depends on your file. but again any kde-* entry will be
considered.
Does the conversion routine look through all
subdirectories of my
/home/<user> directory for menu files, and process files other than
applications-tdemenuedit.menu? If so, ought I to remove various legacy
and backup files?. Also, I have some subdirectories with backups of
various configuration files from other user accounts; will it scan these
as well and fail, even though they're not used by my account
Rename routine and test9 is specific for this file
"$USER_DIR/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu". It will not look
into subdirs and backup files.
Hope this help.
Cheers
Michele
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29 Apr
4:23 p.m.
On 2020-04-29 10:58 a.m., Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
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Michele,
thanks for the tip; your instructions were clear and helpful. Here is my
feedback as it may also be helpful to others with the same problem..
There was nothing odd (no kde* files) in the "~/.local/share
/applications" folder
I searched with kwrite in the
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" file for "kde" and
substituted "tde" in all "desktop" hits, i.e., the files named in the
r14 script output noted earlier. Some occurred more than once as I had
copies in various submenus. Saved the file, rebooted, there was one
notice of a check, rebooted, DONE! Everything seems to work fine now,
including the apps where the "tde" substitution was carried out.
My installation is over 5 years old and has been through a number of
upgrades so it is not surprising that there is some cruft in the setup.
However, it has always worked well. Long live TDE!
Sincerely,
L. McCarty
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It says "error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text below
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is some relatively simple
editing of some TDE
configuration files. Please advise.
L. McCarty
Hi L.,
yes problems with test 9 are sort of expected, as we wrote in the release notes as well.
Thanks for getting in touch.
Check the following file "~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu" and
check the contents of the
folder. I think it is possible/likely you have both "kde-*.desktop" and
"tde-*.desktop"
files for the ones listed in your email. For example 'kde-kbiff.desktop' and
'tde-kbiff.desktop'.
To fix this problem you can rename kde-* files to tde-* files and edit
"~/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu"
so to rename or remove any reference like
"<Filename>kde-*.desktop</Filename>".
Depending on your edit history and system setup, the same file could be names in many
different sections, mostly
"includes" and "excludes" ones, so you need to be sure to see where
the file is required.
The starting scripts automatically does the rename in case it is safe to do so, otherwise
it fails and requires user
intervention to avoid messing things up, as in your case.
Let us know how it goes and if you need more support.
Cheers
Michele 
3:36 p.m.
Hi L.S. McCarty,
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb L.S. McCarty:
It says
"error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text
below <Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is some
relatively simple editing of some TDE configuration files. Please
advise.
I encountered the same issue, see also this thread (r14-xdg-update
script error when TDM is starting TDE, 30.3.2020):
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16852
HTH, kind regards,
Stefan
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On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 17:36:36 Stefan Krusche wrote:
Hi L.S. McCarty,
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb L.S. McCarty:
Hi Stefan
automatic file renaming has been added to the script if there is no
collision. If there is a collision, manual intervention from the user is
required, as Michele mentioned in a previous email.
Cheers
--
Slávek
It says
"error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text
below <Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is some
relatively simple editing of some TDE configuration files. Please
advise.
I encountered the same issue, see also this thread (r14-xdg-update
script error when TDM is starting TDE, 30.3.2020):
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16852
HTH, kind regards,
Stefan
1 May
1 May
7:43 a.m.
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb Slávek Banko:
On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 17:36:36 Stefan Krusche
wrote:
Dear Slávek,
first of all thank you (and all the other devs, of course, as well) very
much for your invaluable work and contributions to maintain TDE! Much
appreciated!
Hi L.S. McCarty,
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb L.S. McCarty:
Hi Stefan It says
"error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text
below <Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is
some relatively simple editing of some TDE configuration files.
Please advise.
I encountered the same issue, see also this thread (r14-xdg-update
script error when TDM is starting TDE, 30.3.2020):
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16852
HTH, kind regards,
Stefan automatic file renaming has been added to the script
if there is no
collision. If there is a collision, manual intervention from the user
is required, as Michele mentioned in a previous email.
Yes, thanks for the hint. This was also the result of the other
r14-xdg-update thread and the reason I referred to it.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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6:25 p.m.
On Friday, 1. May 2020, Stefan Krusche wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb Slávek Banko:
Thanks for this hint, this solves my profile update problem.
Now tde-startup is free of error messages and fast again.
Stef
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On Wednesday 29 of April 2020 17:36:36 Stefan
Krusche wrote:
Dear Slávek,
first of all thank you (and all the other devs, of course, as well) very
much for your invaluable work and contributions to maintain TDE! Much
appreciated!
Hi L.S. McCarty,
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 schrieb L.S. McCarty:
Hi Stefan It says
"error code 9
Common failures include file and directory permissions"
The file "r14-xgd-update-validation-test9.txt" contains the text
below <Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-superkaramba.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-fsview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kbiff.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kpdf_part.desktop</Filename>
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed but expect the solution is
some relatively simple editing of some TDE configuration files.
Please advise.
I encountered the same issue, see also this thread (r14-xdg-update
script error when TDM is starting TDE, 30.3.2020):
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::16852
HTH, kind regards,
Stefan automatic file renaming has been added to the
script if there is no
collision. If there is a collision, manual intervention from the user
is required, as Michele mentioned in a previous email.
Yes, thanks for the hint. This was also the result of the other
r14-xdg-update thread and the reason I referred to it.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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