30 Dec
2015
30 Dec
'15
9:23 a.m.
I've installed a brand new "Jessie" with TDE. Globally a smooth install.
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until
now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the
password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the command,
the
password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
This is no problem with gostcrypt, but with kpackage it means that I can't
use "open with" with a package, I must load the package in kpackage (not a
big deal, but I wish I would understand what the problem is).
I did not see this problem with openSuSE, seems to be Debian related.
Thierry
30 Dec
30 Dec
6:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Superuser rights problem
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On 12/30/2015 10:23 AM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I've installed a brand new "Jessie" with
TDE. Globally a smooth install.
Now I've got a small problem with superuser rights with some programs. Until now
kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt
have shown this behaviour:
- if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the password. Neither
the root password nor the
user password work.
- if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the
command, the password is asked first, and the program
works correctly.
This is no problem with gostcrypt, but with kpackage it means that I can't use
"open with" with a package, I must
load the package in kpackage (not a big deal, but I wish I would understand what the
problem is).
I did not see this problem with openSuSE, seems to be Debian related.
Thierry
Hi Thierry,
I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything wrong. But
maybe I was doing something
different from you.
Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce the post? Some
screenshots would also be useful
.
Thanks
Michele
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9:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Superuser rights problem
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19.59:42 Michele Calgaro wrote:
(...)
Hi Michele,
Not so easy... There's not much showing.
With kpackage, I get the same behaviour wether I start kpackage (from the
TDE/kicker menu) or by right-clicking on the *.deb file and choosing "open
with":
kpackage opens, I choose install, kpackage asks for the password (snapshot 1).
Maybe a clue? It asks for the SUDO password - I have no sudo password.
Neither the root nor the user password work. The dialog box disappears, then
comes back, and so on.
If I modify the menu command in "tdesu kpackage", kpackage works (albeit I get
a "tdeinit could not start tdesu" message...).
I tried starting kpackage from the command line but all I get is:
thierry@haswell:~$ kpackage
TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for writing
TQLayout "unnamed" added to TQVBox "page", which already has a layout
thierry@haswell:~$ ^C
thierry@haswell:~$
No idea if this tells you something...
Gostcrypt shows a similar behaviour, but with no message at all. I can select
the crypted partition, but when I want to mount it this requires the root
password, which is not taken, so of course gostcrypt does not get the
superuser rights (snapshot 2).
tdesu gostcrypt works perfectly, so this is not really a problem.
I also need tdesu to start synaptic, but this is more to get a nice dialog box
(otherwise some text window is used to ask for the root password.
Thank you,
Thierry
> Now I've got a small problem with superuser
rights with some programs.
> Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
>
> - if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the
> password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
>
> - if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the
command,
> the password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
(...)
Thierry
Hi Thierry,
I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything
wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you.
Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce
the post? Some screenshots would also be useful .
Thanks
Michele 
31 Dec
31 Dec
12:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Superuser rights problem
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 11:39:13 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19.59:42 Michele Calgaro
wrote:
(...)
Hi Michele,
Not so easy... There's not much showing.
With kpackage, I get the same behaviour wether I start kpackage (from the
TDE/kicker menu) or by right-clicking on the *.deb file and choosing "open
with":
kpackage opens, I choose install, kpackage asks for the password (snapshot
1). Maybe a clue? It asks for the SUDO password - I have no sudo password.
Neither the root nor the user password work. The dialog box disappears,
then comes back, and so on.
If I modify the menu command in "tdesu kpackage", kpackage works (albeit I
get a "tdeinit could not start tdesu" message...).
I tried starting kpackage from the command line but all I get is:
thierry@haswell:~$ kpackage
TQSettings::sync: failed to open '/etc/tqt3/tqt_plugins_3.5rc.tmp' for
writing TQLayout "unnamed" added to TQVBox "page", which already has
a
layout thierry@haswell:~$ ^C
thierry@haswell:~$
No idea if this tells you something...
Gostcrypt shows a similar behaviour, but with no message at all. I can
select the crypted partition, but when I want to mount it this requires the
root password, which is not taken, so of course gostcrypt does not get the
superuser rights (snapshot 2).
tdesu gostcrypt works perfectly, so this is not really a problem.
I also need tdesu to start synaptic, but this is more to get a nice dialog
box (otherwise some text window is used to ask for the root password.
Thank you,
Thierry
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have you tried adding a sudo password and using it, at least as a workaround
d.
> Now I've got a small problem with
superuser rights with some programs.
> Until now kpackage-trinity and Gostcrypt have shown this behaviour:
>
> - if I start the program (from TDE), at some point it will ask for the
> password. Neither the root password nor the user password work.
>
> - if I modify the program "icon" by adding "tdesu" before the
command,
> the password is asked first, and the program works correctly.
(...)
Thierry
Hi Thierry,
I tried to reproduce the problem on my system but I didn't see anything
wrong. But maybe I was doing something different from you.
Could you file a bug report with detail instructions on how to reproduce
the post? Some screenshots would also be useful .
Thanks
Michele
1:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Superuser rights problem
On Thursday 31 December 2015 13.44:14 kanenas(a)hawaii.rr.com wrote:
have you tried adding a sudo password and using it, at
least as a
workaround
d.
No, IMHO it would be too messy: I would have a user password, a sudo password,
a root password. I don't like sudo because I don't see the limits between
user and root, to me it's a bad solution (but I don't want to start yet
another sudo vs root discussion).
Starting the programs with tdesu is OK, it's clear that you are root and they
work perfectly this way. I will check if addding my user to the sudo group
helps, but I am definitely not going to use sudo.
Thanks for the suggestion however.
Note: of course I could give the same password everywhere :)
It's not really a joke, as that's what openSuSE's install proposes (to use the
user password for root). How they came to that idea I don't know.
Thierry
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