tde-devels April 2013

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Re: [trinity-devel] OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn

by Darrell Anderson

>We would need upstream acceptance of TDE in affected projects for >this to be viable. If this is not done, then users will notice a degraded >experience when basic programs such as Synaptic cease to function >properly. These users would then note that such applications work >properly under KDE, and logically conclude that TDE is broken. > >I think this is a lesser of two evils problem, and would like to >keep the dual test in at this point. > >Thoughts from others knowledgeable in this area? This should not be about lesser evils. Ugly approach! :) Who upstream is making this problematic? Is this a Debian-only issue? Is this only a packaging issue? Please explain more. What exactly is needed to provide remedy? Trinity is recognized as an XDG desktop. Upstream, whoever they might be, need to get on board. I doubt "upstream" has failed to support other XDG recognized desktops. TDE != KDE. :) I created a tdelibs patch and am rebuilding now. I'll start testing thereafter. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn

by Darrell Anderson

>This was on purpose to allow improperly coded KDE applications to >show up, for instance synaptic will not work otherwise as it uses >OnlyShowIn=KDE. The problem is identified in bug report 1364. I understand how this dual test was added after 3.5.10, when TDE was still considered KDE. Now that TDE is a recognized standalone XDG desktop, the dual testing for both TDE and KDE should be removed in R14.0.0. I don't know that the change should be backported to 3.5.13.x, but the change is needed in R14.0.0. Darrell

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OnlyShowIn vs. NotShowIn

by Darrell Anderson

Along with Trinity I have KDE4 installed, mostly for testing and comparisons. When I use OnlyShowIn=KDE; in a desktop file, the item still appears in the Trinity launcher menu. When I use NotShowIn=TDE; the item disappears. The former option should work just as well as the latter. Can anybody else confirm this bahavior? Second, is this a bug with Trinity? Thanks. Darrell

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Nightly builds update

by Timothy Pearson

All, Please be advised that the nightly builds repository will be in an inconsistent state for the next few days as the entire archive is rebuilt following recent changes to the common build system files. As a result, the nightly builds may crash or fail to operate properly until the rebuild is complete. Therefore, users of the nightly builds are encouraged to hold off on applying updates for the next few days. Thanks! Tim

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Testing apps for R14.0.0 release

by Darrell Anderson

Hi folks, A request to everybody involved to start spot-testing apps. Not the apps you use everyday but the less-used apps. Make sure they open without errors --- starting from konsole is good for that. Spot test that nothing unusual happens with configuration dialogs, etc. We are starting to look pretty good as we move toward an R14.0.0 release. Spot testing apps will help avoid embarassments. :) Thanks! :) Darrell

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Tim: Re: [trinity-devel] Parallelizing kded and ksmserver starting modules and apps

by Darrell Anderson

>How much does Trinity already parallelize startup? Is there more >we can do? > >The following article is interesting with respect to developing a >"KDE Lite": > >https://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/11/hackweek9-lightweight-kde-desktop- project-updated > >The idea of parallelizing the startup is in the last paragraph. Tim, any thoughts about this topic? If possible then I will open an enhancement request. Darrell

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tderadio has no icon in the application launcher menu

by Darrell Anderson

I'm working on bug report 1463 adding nominal fixes to ensure a consistent look in the application launcher menu. There is no icon with tderadio. I don't know whether this is a build or detection problem. Any ideas where to troubleshoot? Thanks. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] BLFS trintiy instructions.

by Darrell Anderson

>Ugh... not what I've been looking for, but close anyway. Pointed >me to Community-driven BLFS, where I have found instructions for KDE3. > >Anyway, I see that this wiki page was created by Laurent. Wasn't >it him who were writing TDE instructions for BLFS? I don't remember. Perhaps the mail lists will help? http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] BLFS trintiy instructions.

by Darrell Anderson

>If I remember correctly there was someone who was writing >instructions >for BLFS book on compiling and getting to work TDE on LFS. I >remember >using those instructions while writing PKGBUILDs for arch, since >those >instructions were nicely detailed. I wanted to look at them, now >that >I'm trying to compile TDE on my Gentoo installation. > >But now they have vanished and I can't find them anywhere. > >Any hopes on mirrors or direct contact with the person that was >writing them? This is the only result I found: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Sandbox/TlfsIntroduction Darrell

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[Fwd: Re: [trinity-users] A Memory Comparison of Light Linux Desktops]

by Timothy Pearson

Cross-post for those not subscribed to the users list... ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [trinity-users] A Memory Comparison of Light Linux Desktops From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> Date: Thu, April 18, 2013 7:15 pm To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:54:25 +0200 > SlÃ¡vek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> you might also be interested in: >> >> http://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-de… >> http://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-de… >> >> It surprised me Razor-qt. I have to say that this environment is not >> nearly as complete and comprehensive as Trinity, but memory >> consumption is staggering. That would be a consequence of using Qt4? >> The choice to remain in Trinity with Qt3 => TQt3 seems to be a very >> good decision. >> >> Slavek > > I have obtained pretty much the same test results while struggling to > find a TDE alternative(s) using a "features / resource consumption" > scale. I saw no competition between the TDE and Razor-Qt, because of the > reasons you have mentioned. As the time passes new actively developed > projects like Razor-Qt tend to grow larger, not smaller, so I assume > the gap will only widen in the future. > > It's still too early to guess, but I (wish|expect) to see E17 as a major > rival of TDE in 3-4 years from now. > > Regards, > Sergey. This discussion brings up a long-standing idea I have had. I would like to add a "Why TDE?" page to the website; this should contain a brief set of paragraphs explaining why users like yourselves have chosen to use TDE versus another desktop. Entries should not engage in bashing other desktops, but should instead highlight unique features of TDE that, singly or in unison, have swayed you to choose TDE for use in a particular setting. Thoughts on this? Thanks! Tim --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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