>Please note that this might not be all TDE's fault. I have
>noticed that
>the X server (and possibly the kernel itself) tends to get slower
>and
>slower from release to release on old hardware. In general,
>locking
>myself to an old version of the kernel and Xorg on old hardware,
>then
>compiling new software on top of those old versions, seems to give
>halfway
>decent results.
I agree the problem is not TDE per se. I too seem to believe that
Linux based systems get slower with each new release.
>However, if you are noticing that TDE is running slower than KDE
>3.5.10 on
>the same X/kernel versions, then we have a problem. ;-)
I haven't tried such a test on my older systems. On newer Linux
systems, compiling 3.5.10 now is all but impossible with all of the
various upstream software changes that require patching. I
experienced that compiling R14 on older Linux systems is impossible
without modifying or updating several distro packages. That limits
any 3.5.10->R14 comparison to a specific period of Linux OSs.
Fortunately, I have a candidate here (I can compile 3.5.10 and R14
on Slackware 13.1) and will give this a test a go.
That said what kinds of system or usability tests would be
representative?
Darrell
>Notify-send seems to be the most generic of them all, but does
>depend
>on dbus. Most applets I've seen (mostly gtk applets though), do
>use
>notify send for their notifications.
Can we hack kdbusnotification, knotify, or notify-send to work
correctly?
>You could also use a basic scriptable widget like xdialog which is
>like cdialog or just dialog
I want a system tray popup. (Nikolaus) Likewise for xmessage or
xosd. :-)
I already can create message windows with kdialog, KDED kwrited, or
dcop. But such a script is then not desktop-agnostic. I don't want
to waste time with a bunch of if-then tests. :-)
I want a message that does not timeout, which is broken in notify-
send when used in non-GTK environments. (Or possibly is broken only
in Qt/TQt environments because the -t0 option does not work in KDE
either.)
Besides the broken -t0 option in non-GTK environments, the
notification popup does not use knotify or kdbusnotification. Seems
like notify-send is an obvious option, but not integrated into TDE
at all. Either notify-send or knotify/kdbusnotification need
patching.
If notify-send supports/requires dbus, then patching
kdbusnotifcation would be the most straightforward option?
Ideas?
Darrell
All,
Are there any notification popup tools to use with Trinity?
Especially to run in scripts.
kdialog is TDE-specific, as is dcop.
There is rwall and KDED kwrited, but that is not a small system
tray popup.
libnotify provides notify-send, but notify-send is GNOME-centric.
For example, the infinite timeout option, -t0, does not work with
either TDE or KDE4 (works fine in Xfce).
There is dbus, but that requires installing an optional Trinity
package, kdbusnotification.
Ideas? Recommendations?
Darrell
>>>In the 3.5.13.x branch, dbus-tqt and dbus-1-tqt were required to
>>>install to /usr rather than $PREFIX (usually /opt/trinity).
>>>
>>>In the R14 branch that was changed. At least, I have been
>building
>>>
>>>both to install to /opt/trinity since I started building R14 in
>>>the
>>>early days of the branch.
>>>
>>>* Are/should those packages be built to install to /usr?
>>>
>>>* Is tqtinterface still required to be built to install to /usr?
>>>
>>>* Are any other packages required to built to install to /usr?
>>
>> Anybody? This affects all developers.
>>
>Sorry, this doesn't affect me any more as I haven't done anything
>with the
>3.5.13 branch for ages now. I'd help if I could only remember...
>;-)
I did not phrase my question correctly. Is R14 affected by those
install requirements? Or can all modules be installed to
/opt/trinity?
Darrell
>In the 3.5.13.x branch, dbus-tqt and dbus-1-tqt were required to
>install to /usr rather than $PREFIX (usually /opt/trinity).
>
>In the R14 branch that was changed. At least, I have been building
>
>both to install to /opt/trinity since I started building R14 in
>the
>early days of the branch.
>
>* Are/should those packages be built to install to /usr?
>
>* Is tqtinterface still required to be built to install to /usr?
>
>* Are any other packages required to built to install to /usr?
Anybody? This affects all developers.
Darrell
All,
You may have noticed that the TDE servers have been experiencing random
and sometimes lengthy service interruptions over the past few days. This
was due to an upstream Internet service provider problem, and should now
be fixed.
Thank you for your patience!
Timothy Pearson
Trinity Desktop Project
In the 3.5.13.x branch, dbus-tqt and dbus-1-tqt were required to
install to /usr rather than $PREFIX (usually /opt/trinity).
In the R14 branch that was changed. At least, I have been building
both to install to /opt/trinity since I started building R14 in the
early days of the branch.
* Are/should those packages be built to install to /usr?
* Is tqtinterface still required to be built to install to /usr?
* Are any other packages required to built to install to /usr?
Thanks! :-)
Darrell