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by David C. Rankin

All, I couldn't make the meeting today, but did read the logs. One note I have was concerning the discussion regarding systemd and whether some distros will move to it and some not. I want to make sure the issue isn't confused. Not everyone will move to the systemd init systems, but everyone _will_ move to the systemd package that provides udev. Arch separates systemd-tools to provide udev. My guess is that most distros will do something similar to provide a udev package from it's new upstream. Just know that udev from systemd isn't the same as adopting systemd init structure. Arch has no plans to move to systemd. Init scripts further the KISS philosophy, and systemd, while it provides a number of new tools, it doesn't provide anything necessary to get your box going that your current sysV or bsd style inits don't. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

12 years, 10 months

Branding: Problematic *.desktop files?

by Darrell Anderson

Tim, While running branding updates, I ran across some problematic desktop files. I don't know how we want to update these files. These files contain URLs to kde.org: tdebase/konqueror/sidebar/trees/init/remote/ftp/kde_ftp.desktop tdebase/konqueror/sidebar/trees/init/remote/web/kde_web.desktop tdebase/konqueror/sidebar/trees/init/remote/web/apps_web.desktop tdebase/konqueror/sidebar/trees/init/remote/web/look_web.desktop tdebase/konqueror/sidebar/trees/init/remote/web/dot_web.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/ebrowsing/plugins/ikws/searchproviders/kde_websvn.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/ebrowsing/plugins/ikws/searchproviders/appsy.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/ebrowsing/plugins/ikws/searchproviders/bugft.desktop tdebase/kcontrol/ebrowsing/plugins/ikws/searchproviders/kde.desktop These files use a group heading of [KDE Desktop Pattern], referenced in tdebase/kcontrol/background/bgsettings.cpp: tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/triangles.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/rattan.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/fish.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/pavement.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/flowers.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/night-rock.desktop tdebase/kdesktop/patterns/stonewall2.desktop These files use a group heading of [KDE Cards], referenced in tdegames/libtdegames/kcarddialog.cpp: tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck19.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck7.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck2.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck16.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck3.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck23.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck0.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck18.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck8.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck13.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck6.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck10.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck12.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck22.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck24.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck21.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck15.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck17.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck20.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck14.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck5.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck1.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck4.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/decks/deck11.desktop These files use a group heading of [KDE Backdeck], referenced in tdegames/libtdegames/kcarddialog.cpp: tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-hard-a-port/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-konqi-modern/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-default/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-warwick/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-xskat-german/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-penguins/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-aisleriot/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-spaced/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-gdkcard-bonded/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-xskat-french/index.desktop tdegames/libtdegames/carddecks/cards-dondorf-whist-b/index.desktop Darrell

12 years, 10 months

KDED Subversion Module

by Darrell Anderson

This Trinity service is installed from tdesdk. Although configured not to start automatically, this service is started by various user actions. For example, selecting Properties in the konqueror context popup menu will start this Trinity service. Most users do not need this service running at any time for any reason. As we continually watch for ways to improve Trinity, should this service be started all the time for no apparent reason? Darrell

12 years, 10 months

rosegarden FTBFS in 64-bit

by Darrell Anderson

Slackware Current 64-bit The failure: /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../x86_64-slackware-linux/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/rosegardensequencer.dir/sequencer/main.cpp.o: undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_sigmask@@GLIBC_2.2.5' /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../x86_64-slackware-linux/bin/ld: note: 'pthread_sigmask@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in DSO /lib64/libpthread.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line /lib64/libpthread.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status rosegarden builds without that error in 32-bit. How to fix? Darrell

12 years, 10 months

QCAD Notes

by Darrell Anderson

I don't have a clue how to use QCAD in any meaningful way, but QCAD runs on my Trinity system. I built QCAD against Qt 3.3.8.b. I built QCAD in KDE3 and not in Trinity. Because Qt 3.3.8.d and TQt3 are built and installed separately, I have no problems launching QCAD from within Trinity. The dialogs in QCAD suck, just like LibreOffice. Stupid generic Qt3 dialogs. :-) I'm curious how much patching is required to build QCAD with TQt3. I hope to tinker with that eventually. I don't know how to force building QCAD (or any generic Qt3 app) to use the TDE Integration Module to use Trinity dialogs. Darrell

12 years, 10 months

Slackware 14

by Darrell Anderson

Tim, Calvin, Please add "Slackware 14" as a Platform/OS to the bug tracker pick lists. That is the next release of Slackware. I am testing Trinity with that pre-release. Thank you! Darrell

12 years, 10 months

Systems administrators: Administer Linux with Trinity desktop tools

by Darrell Anderson

I found the following article interesting: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-admin-gnome/index.html?ca… Trinity does most of this. I was thinking we could write a similar article for our community wiki. Questions: * How to set default file manager (konqueror) viewing preferences for all users? (Figure 4). The author did not imply setting such default options globally for all users was possible in GNOME, I'm just asking whether that is possible in Trinity. * Does Trinity provide a GUI tool to manage system services (not Trinity services)? Darrell

12 years, 10 months

R14.0.0 Help Handbook Status

by Darrell Anderson

I reorganized the table of contents. Several documents now use dynamic release versions and dates, which means that information will alwasy be current. There are too many handbooks needing a thorough review. We can't update all of them before R14.0.0. For R14.0.0 I am limiting my focus to a specific set of handbooks. Currently I am revising the following: tdebase/doc/faq/index.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/support.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/welcome.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/contact.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/index.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/whatistde.docbook tdebase/doc/khelpcenter/help.docbook tdebase/doc/quickstart/index.docbook tdebase/doc/tdm/index.docbook tdebase/doc/userguide/index.docbook tdebase/doc/visualdict/index.docbook To anybody interested in helping: * Review all images (obsolete, branding, etc.) * Missing images (this requires reading the text and noting where an image would help) * Watch for any web link referencing KDE web sites * Watch for any mail link referencing KDE addresses * Technical correctness * Stale information (for example, the FAQ) To anybody who wants to help, you do not need to learn docbook. Use the actual (GIT, not 3.5.13 :-)) help handbooks to review. Contact me here in the mail list with your observations and notes. :-) Darrell

12 years, 10 months

Meeting Logs

by Robert Xu

The June Meeting Logs are up: https://gist.github.com/3005641 -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu

12 years, 10 months

FTBFS - kima (kima.h) error 'list' in namespace 'std' does not name a type

by David C. Rankin

Tim, Darrell, kima has an unusual build error: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../src/cpufreqd -I../src/sources -I/opt/trinity/include -I/opt/tqt3/include -I. -include tqt.h -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/include/hal -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -fno-builtin -g3 -fno-inline -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -I/usr/include/tqt -MT kima.moc.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kima.moc.Tpo -c -o kima.moc.lo kima.moc.cpp libtool: compile: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../src/cpufreqd -I../src/sources -I/opt/trinity/include -I/opt/tqt3/include -I. -include tqt.h -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/include/hal -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -fno-builtin -g3 -fno-inline -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -I/usr/include/tqt -MT kima.moc.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kima.moc.Tpo -c kima.moc.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/kima.moc.o In file included from kima.moc.cpp:9:0: ./kima.h:177:24: error: 'list' in namespace 'std' does not name a type ./kima.h:177:29: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'parameter' with no type [-fpermissive] ./kima.h:177:33: error: expected ',' or '...' before '<' token I am picking around with it, but if anyone understands the 'list' for forward declaration errors, let me know. I know the forward declaration means I need to move the declaration around in the header, but the 'list' has me a bit confused. The line complained about is: 177 void addSources(const std::list<Source*>& inList); How should it be re-written to get around the 3rd error? 177 void addSources(const std::list,<Source*>& inList); or 177 void addSources(const std::list...<Source*>& inList); Templates and I have not made friends yet :( -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

12 years, 10 months

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