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(Late) June Meeting
by Robert Xu 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hi trinity-devel, First off, let me apologize for my recent 8 months of inactivity. There has been a lot of work that I needed to do, and as such, I took a number of months off from doing any linux work to make sure I got what other real-life stuff needed to be done. I know a lot of people were expecting me to finish my work; sadly, 8 months have passed and I have missed too much to keep up with it for now. That being said, here comes the bad news. My server was brought down due to a faulty hard drive in May, and I've only managed to get it warrantied and replaced now. As such, my server's mirrors were brought down and HEAnet cannot mirror from my server at the moment. In addition, the MeetBot was brought down as well (if you idle on freenode, you might have noticed [lindaemon] was gone). Even though my summer internship is giving me a bit more work to do, and we don't have a MeetBot for now, I would still like to proceed with the June Meeting (even with how late it is). We have not had a meeting in a long while (since April, right?) and this would be a good progress indicator of where we are at R14 and 3.5.13.1. Communication is key; so let's take that key and use it for success! The June Meeting is scheduled for next Wednesday, June 27, 2012. Please let me know if you cannot make it. The time for the meeting is set for 11 AM, Eastern Daylight Standard Time (US). As always, if I get enough requests, I will move the meeting up or down the week. Please bring up a list of topics that need to be addressed. At the moment, that would contain the list of fixes for 3.5.13.1 and the state of the repository for R14. Thanks, and sorry again, Robert Xu

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kchmviewer -configure: error: conditional "include_x11" was never defined ??
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Tim, Darrell, I have run into another failure that I don't understand. This time it is an error looking for x11 with kchmviewer. I haven't seen this error before: checking for X... libraries , headers checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for chm_open in -lchm... yes Please remember to use GNU make, often installed as gmake. Install prefix : /opt/trinity KDE support : disabled. Qt includes : Qt libraries : chmlib to link : system checking if lib should be compiled... yes checking if po should be compiled... yes checking if src should be compiled... yes checking that generated files are newer than configure... done configure: error: conditional "include_x11" was never defined. Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally. ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Where do I even begin finding out what caused the: configure: error: conditional "include_x11" was never defined. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Amarok - dependency tunepimp (libtunepimp) deprecated/FTBFS gcc 4.7.1
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

All, The latest amarok failure I experienced was due to tunepimp (an amarok dep) failing to be available any longer from Arch. Looking further at the musicbrainz.org site, tunepimp is deprecated and new development should not occur with the library due to the RDF database lookup no longer being supported. Further information is here: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/History:libtunepimp/Download Attempting to build tunepimp results in failure on gcc 4.7.1: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include/tunepimp-0.5 -I../../libltdl -Wall -O2 -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -MT mp4.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/mp4.Tpo -c mp4.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mp4.o mp4.cpp:53:1: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*' [-Wwrite-strings] <snip> mp4.cpp: In function 'int mp4ReadMetadata(metadata_t*, const char*, int, const char*)': mp4.cpp:124:41: error: 'MP4GetMetadataName' was not declared in this scope <snip many others> Apparently tunepimp has been replaced with one of the following: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_Tagger http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Classic_Tagger http://musicbrainz.org/doc/CD_Lookup_Tool I know nada about figuring out which one of the new musicbraiz lookups would be the one that amarok will need. What say the experts on how to fix amarok? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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FTBFS tqca-tls (x86_64) can't find TQt3 (i686 builds?)
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Tim, All, I just started a full x86_64 build. 1st since name change and I've hit a snag with tqca-tls. My /etc/profile.d/tqt.sh is executable this time :) The build can't find TQt: ==> Setting PATH and Trinity Environment variables ==> Patching... ==> Starting configure... Configuring qca-tls ... Verifying TQt 3.x Multithreaded (MT) build environment ... fail There was an error compiling 'conf'. Be sure you have a proper TQt 3.x Multithreaded (MT) build environment set up. ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... HuH?? Looking at the conf.log it looks like a bad joke on 64 bit boxes concerning what was generated: g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -D_REENTRANT -DX11_INC='"/usr/X11R6/include"' -DX11_LIBDIR='"/usr/X11R6/lib64"' -DX11_LIB='"-lXext -lX11 -lm"' -DCC='"gcc"' -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/opt/tqt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I'/usr/include/tqt' -I/opt/tqt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -o conf.o conf.cpp g++ -Wl,-rpath,/opt/tqt3/lib64 -o conf conf.o -L/opt/tqt3/lib64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -ltqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltqt-mt collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [conf] Error 1 Where is this /opt/tqt3/lib'64' garbage coming from? Arch just 'lib' not any 'lib64' dir names when handling libraries. Where in this package are the 'lib' or 'lib64' search directories and lib directory names controlled? Like noted earlier, I can build tqca-tls on i686 all day long, but this is one of the first i've built on x86_64 and something isn't quite right. Prior to the name change stuff, this built like clockwork. Where should we look for the culprit here (there isn't much here). What say the gurus? Ideas? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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tdesdk FTBFS: svn_client-1 library was not found on your system
by Darrell Anderson 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

The build failure message: -- Looking for svn_pool_create_ex in svn_client-1 -- Looking for svn_pool_create_ex in svn_client-1 - not found CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:23 (message): ################################################# svn_client-1 library was not found on your system. Subversion is installed? Try to set SVN_LIBRARY_DIR to subversion library directory. ################################################# Call Stack (most recent call first): kioslave/svn/ConfigureChecks.cmake:27 (tde_message_fatal) kioslave/svn/CMakeLists.txt:12 (include) The configure test is from tdesdk/kioslave/svn/ConfigureChecks.cmake. David ran into this failure in March. Until recently I was using automake to build tdesdk. After some cmake build bugs were resolved I moved to cmake. tdesdk builds without this specific failure using cmake on Slackware 13.1 and 13.37, both 32 and 64-bit. Those releases use subversion 1.6.16. Slackware Current bumped the subversion package to version 1.7.5. I suspect this is the cause of the failure. Looking at the packages between the two, the libsvn_client-1 lib files are installed in the same location, /usr/lib/. All header files are installed in the same location, /usr/include/subversion-1/. Because Slackware Current is the testing branch for the next release, there is a possibility the package is not built correctly, but because David experienced this failure in March, I am discounting that possibility. Of course, there could be an upstream problem with the way the package builds that would be common downstream to all packagers. tdesdk builds without incident using automake and as far as I can tell, all svn support was built. At this point looks like we need to modify tdesdk/kioslave/svn/ConfigureChecks.cmake. Any ideas? Darrell

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x86_64 Arch build report - slow start, but majority OK
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Darrell, Tim, After a slow start today in my x86_64 build run on Arch, most packages built. The build failures I experienced after patching the makespec++-64/qmake.conf lib64/lib issue were: 14 Failures: mlt mlt++ (both mlt & mlt++ are OK on i686) tdebindings amarok kchmviewer kdmtheme kbfx kima kstreamripper krusader kmplayer (I think this will build -- will have to tweak) kuickshow digikam (libpng15 issue) koffice On the succeeded side of the equation = 72: hal-0.5.14-9-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz hal-info-0.20091130-6-any.pkg.tar.xz libkarma-0.1.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz libnjb-2.2.7-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz libutempter-1.1.5-8-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz mt-daapd-0.2.4.2-7-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-abakus-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-arts-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-avahi-tqt-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-basket-1.0.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-dbus-1-tqt-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-dbus-tqt-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-dolphin-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-filelight-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-gtk-qt-engine-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-gwenview-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-k3b-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-k9copy-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kaffeine-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kbarcode-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kbookreader-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kdiff3-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kdirstat-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kgtk-qt3-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kio-locate-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kipi-plugins-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-knemo-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-knetload-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-knetstats-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-knutclient-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-konversation-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kpowersave-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-krename-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-ksplash-engine-moodin-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libart-lgpl-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libcaldav-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libcarddav-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libkdcraw-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libkexiv2-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libkipi-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-libksquirrel-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-python-tqt-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-rosegarden-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-sip-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-sip4-tqt-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-soundkonverter-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tde-style-qtcurve-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeaccessibility-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeaddons-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeadmin-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeartwork-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdebase-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeedu-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdegames-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdegraphics-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdelibs-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdemultimedia-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdenetwork-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdepim-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdesdk-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdesvn-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdetoys-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdeutils-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdevelop-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tdewebdev-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tqca-tls-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tqt3-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-tqtinterface-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-twin-style-crystal-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-wlassistant-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-yakuake-14.0.0_dev-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz xmedcon-0.11.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz We will adjust the build of TQt3 to solve the mkspec issue and we should be in good shape. Have a good evening. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Update script
by Julius Schwartzenberg 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hi Darrell, I just updated my system here and while I have a starttde that refers to a TDEDIR/bin/r14-xdg-update, this file does not exist here (/opt/trinity/bin/r14-xdg-update). Is it in another package somehow? Another note, about the name. On at least Ubuntu and Debian most update scripts are named "update-something". I don't know if this is a convention, but it would be what I expect. Doesn't really matter much though. (Something like update-kde3-to-tder14-profile seems kinda long, but it makes sense about what it does.) Best regards, Julius

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Francois: 3.5.13.1 packages
by Darrell Anderson 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

Francois, Where do you keep your 3.5.13.1 packages online? Would you please provide that information in bug report 1062? http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/process_bug.cgi Merci! Darrell

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Trinity FAQs
by Darrell Anderson 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

This past winter we discussed adding an FAQ to the web site. We drafted a starter document that is posted in the etherpad repository. The Trinity help handbook includes an FAQ (bottom of table of contents). That FAQ needs revision attention, which I am addressing. Currently the nature of the two FAQs are different. The proposed FAQ in the etherpad repository was written in large response to quashing conflicts between advocates of Trinity and advocates of KDE4. That FAQ is largely focused on that response. The help handbook FAQ is generic. One FAQ reduces overhead and maintenance. Do we want that? If yes then please provide some cursory reviews of both documents and provide appropriate comments to merge the two documents. Thank you. Darrell

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Which platforms does Trinity support?
by Darrell Anderson 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

The Welcome help handbook says the following: TDE is a graphical desktop environment for UNIX® workstations. The Trinity Desktop Environment combines ease of use, contemporary functionality, and professional graphical design along with the technical advantages of the UNIX® operating system. The underlying KDE3 source code supported many Unix-like Operating systems. Are we still supporting anything other than Linux based systems? I want to make the handbook statement technically correct. "Unix and Unix-like" systems? "Unix, Unix-like, and Linux based" systems? Darrell

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