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Extending Darrell's script idea
by Keith Daniels 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

Hi All I have a marketing/advertising background. The following suggestion is primarily aimed at increasing the name recognition of "Trinity Desktop" but should have other useful side effects as well. This idea is structurally similar to the concept of "loss leaders" that commercial stores use to entice people to come to their store, in the hopes that they will buy something else while they are there (which they usually do). Darrel's suggestion of offering Kate scripts to the Trinity Desktop audience started me thinking about this idea. If we had something on the Trinity Desktop web site that people need or want (outside of Trinity itself), and that could be found through a Google search--they would go there to check it out and while there... be able to read what Trinity Desktop is, and what it is trying to do. If they find things they want and that help them (scripts in this case) they will post about what they found on social networks, blogs and forums. If they like what they read about Trinity Desktop, they will post about that as well--whether or not they are interested in using Trinity Desktop or not. These postings would increase hits to the Trinity Desktop site, and cause it to rise in Google ratings. This hopefully would put Trinity's matches in the first 100 results of a Google search--which would radically increase the hits on the Trinity Desktop site and name recognition. My idea is to start a "Trinity Desktop scripts" webpage or forum containing user submitted scripts. This should be interactive and monitored so I think something like a forum would be the best idea. The site/page would be based around the concept of "Useful scripts that can help you to learn scripting as well". It would include scripts that could be used from Konsole or from inside Kate or Konqueror (which sometimes have to be structured differently than standard scripts). Information on how to use scripts inside Kate and Konqueror would also be available. To have a script accepted, a vote or committee approval would be needed. Besides being useful (either in actual use or in learning to script) the script would have to be heavily documented by the writer so that the "what" and "why" of the script could be understood by users not familiar with scripting (the majority of them). What doing this would require: 1 - A web or forum page. 2 - Someone to create & monitor the page. 3 - Someone to manage the submissions, uploads and page entries for the scripts. 4 - Someone(s) to write a Trinity Desktop oriented description of each script -- the authors are usually terrible at this. 5 - People (or a voting system) to look at and and approve the scripts and descriptions. To seed this site/page--all of us could post of its existence on social network, forum and wiki sites that we are members of. I will volunteer to create and manage the web page (if it is not a wiki). Being a retied webmaster I have the skills to do so. Note that I will be on the road from mid April to late June. I could start it and set it up--but would not be able to put a lot of time into it until after June. I personally have been considering doing something like this for the last 5 years as a personal project--so it is not a new concept for me. Because of this my scripts are already heavily documented and ready to use. I have somewhere between 50 and 100 scripts that I think would qualify, and that are ready to be posted. I am sure the rest of you have quite a few scripts as well. This means that an impressive number of scripts could be put up rapidly, providing the variety needed to attract viewers. Thoughts? Another useful page/site similar in effect to the above would be one that specialized post and information on how to modify the appearance and function of menus, toolbars, popups, etc. for Trinity Desktop programs. Keith

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Useful Kate scripts
by Darrell Anderson 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

I was considering opening an enhancement request to add some missing features to Kate. Specifically, adding a word count feature is what motivated me. Rather than file an enhancement request for adding a word count feature, I decided to first request a list of Kate scripts that all of you find useful. The key is "find useful" because there probably are hundreds or thousands of scripts floating around the web that could be added to Trinity. A word count script is useful. :) At this point I don't know whether the scripts should be added as part of tdeaddons or posted someplace at the wiki or web site. We can decide that later. Possibly we can vote and the most popular half-dozen can be added to tdeaddons and the remainder posted to the wiki or web site. If you use any such scripts, please share the name of the script and a full description. Either attach a copy to your email or post a link to the script. A full description is important because file names often are cryptic and do not lend well toward understanding the script's purpose. By the way, I found some word count script candidates: http://muzso.hu/2007/06/08/word-count-in-kate http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kate+script%3A+Word+Count?content=1360… http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Kate-external-tools-p3788414.html I have yet to test. :) Thanks! Darrell

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Does your KHelCenter TOC fully populate?
by Darrell Anderson 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

For those who have Trinity installed from GIT. From the TDE Menu, select Help. When KHelpCenter opens, on the left side, top, in the navigator tabs, scroll to the far left to select the Contents tab. Open/expand Application Manuals. Open/expand Development. Do you see individual apps or only categories? Thanks! Darrell

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Is Tree View Broken?
by Darrell Anderson 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

In Konqueror (built from GIT), I no longer see the tiny expansion and contraction widgets to the left of a folder. The little plus and minus in a box. Nothing I do makes the widgets appear. Would somebody confirm this behavior? Thanks! Darrell

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Arch tarball specifications - why tqtinterface files prefixed with 'dependencies/'?
by David C. Rankin 25 Feb '12

25 Feb '12

Guys, Working with the current tarballs compared with those created from the git tree I have run into a difference in path information included in the existing tarballs instead of those created from a local copy of the git tree. The existing tarballs referenced in the PKGBUILD scripts contain the dependencies path information i.e.: dependencies/tqtinterface/ dependencies/tqtinterface/TODO dependencies/tqtinterface/ConfigureChecks.cmake dependencies/tqtinterface/COPYING dependencies/tqtinterface/CMakeLists.txt dependencies/tqtinterface/configure.in.mid dependencies/tqtinterface/qtinterface/ dependencies/tqtinterface/qtinterface/tqlcdnum.h dependencies/tqtinterface/qtinterface/parser2.sh While those I create from the git tree simply contain e.g.: tqtinterface/CMakeLists.txt tqtinterface/configure.in.bot tqtinterface/AUTHORS tqtinterface/admin/ tqtinterface/configure.in.mid Is prefixing the files in the tarball with the entire directory path below 'main/' going to be the standard? In the past, I have always excluded the module prefix (applications, common, dependencies, libraries, ...). Either way will work, but from a PKGBUILD standpoint, we need to make sure there is a standard. What is the consensus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Documentation Review List
by Kristopher John Gamrat 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

I have completed the list to the best of my knowledge. I listed the two needed updates that I know of. It also contains a list of apps, all that I could glean from the source tarballs for 3.5.13 are listed by package (e.g. base, network, pim, etc.), and each section is alphabetical to make finding the apps in the list a bit easier. The apps list needs adjusting for the name changes in git. The list is at: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/43 Feel free to contribute. -- Kris Gamrat

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Perl expert needed
by Darrell Anderson 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

Skilled with perl? Here are some nuisance bug reports that need resolving: 719 Koffice: unknown icon types (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=719) 804 gwenview: unknown icon type (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=804) 805 tdeutils: unknown icon type (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=805) 806 kipi-plugins: unknown icon type (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=806) 807 tdeaddons: unknown icon type (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=807) All we need to know is how to rename the problematic files and I'll create the patches. My troubleshooting reveals the build warnings are caused by the way the perl scripts parse the names of the file names. The perl scripts are looking for specific prefixes in the file names. The trick is to figure out the correct file name. That's where the perl skills are needed. For example, the problematic files in gwenview are imageops.svg and imageops.svgz. I can resolve the problem by renaming those two files to hisc-action-imageops.svg and hisc-action-imageops.svgz. I lack perls skills to resolve the other bug reports. The specific perl script that parses the file names is named am_edit and is located in the admin directory of each package. Search each am_edit script for the error message reported in the bug report. That will bring you to the section of code that causes the error messages. For example, for gwenview, search for "unknown icon type" in am_edit and the previous lines of code will be how the script parses the file names. Please let me know whether you need further information. Thank you! Darrell

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http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git footer links to kernel.org pages broken
by David C. Rankin 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

Tim, The footer urls for 'Git Tutorial' and 'Git User's Manual' lead to 404 page not found on all http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git pages. For example, at the bottom of each page, the links are: Git Informations -------------------------- Git Tutorial = http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html Git User's Manual = http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html Clicking on either results in: Not Found The requested URL /pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html was not found on this server. No biggie, just passing it along... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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arch pkgbuild - direct git download - prototype (rough)
by David C. Rankin 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

Archers, Please look at the attached PKGBUILD for libart-lgpl. It pulls the source either directly from the git tree on the local machine (after updating it), or it clones directly from scm.trinitydesktop.org. I looked over the existing pkgbuilds that use git in one form or another in ABS and this is my prototype for how we could do the remaining build scripts. Let me know what changes you propose. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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git Help? Howto clone tde-packaging/arch?
by David C. Rankin 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

Guys, I suck at git. How do I clone: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/arch -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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