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KOffice Suite
by Darrell Anderson 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

This past summer there was a discussion about deprecating KOffice. Fortunately this plan was abandoned. KOffice includes the following apps: KWord: Word Processing KSpread: Spreadsheets KPresenter: Slide Presentations Karbon14: Scalable Graphics Drawing KPlato: Project Management Kexi: Database Creator Kugar: Database Report Generator KChart: Chart and Graph Creator Kivio: Flowchart and Diagram Editing Chalk: Painting and Image Editing KFormula: Formula Editor If this suite is advertised as a personal office suite rather than professional the apps remain viable for many Trinity users. The tight integration with TDE is a bonus too. I hope KOffice is not removed from the Trinity line, but I am wondering how much work is involved to package the apps separately. Likely there would need to be a koffice-base package that contains all the common libraries, headers, etc. I seem to recall once upon a time the developers for one of the distros doing this, but my memory gets fuzzy these days. :) Is separate packages feasible and doable? Just asking. :) Darrell

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FAQ: Isn't Qt3 obsolete and dead technology?
by Darrell Anderson 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

OK, now I have your attention. :) I want to add that question to our upcoming FAQ. Would some of you devs answer this question? I'll consolidate the answers for the FAQ. Thanks! Darrell

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Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
by Kristopher John Gamrat 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it says it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed. When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings. Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT (XP is based on NT). Is there a way to turn this off? Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for logging in? -- Kristopher Gamrat Ark Linux webmaster http://www.arklinux.org/

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Lenny maintance and sudo use
by Alexis PM 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hello I encourage to continue to maintain TDE in Debian Lenny. The latest release, 3.5.13, isn't available to Lenny (only for Squeeze), while it is avaible for RHEL 5, which is a older version (two years earlier). Lenny is still a version with official maintenance, and is still used by many people. On the other hand, I would like to emphasize an aspect that has been discussed before by this list: TDE is not neutral in the use of su/sudo, use sudo by default due Ubuntu heritage, but the reality is that numerous distributions use su instead of sudo. Although you can change this setting (some people already explained earlier in this list several times), edit configuration files may seem complicated to the newbies: it would be much easier if TDE allow easily choose the authentication mechanism instead of using sudo by default. Congratulate you for keeping alive the continuation of kde3. Thanks!

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Long-Standing Konsole Bug.
by Richard J.M. Hill 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

I don't know how difficult it would be to fix this, but I thought I would mention it anyway. This issue has been around since the KDE 3.4.x days. I like to use Konsole without any menubars, scrollbars, or tabs. Since KDE 3.4.2 (I think), there is a remnant of the tab-bar visible at all times; even in fullscreen mode. It would be wonderful if that could be eliminated. I have attached a screenshot so you can see what I mean. I realise that there are more urgent matters to attend to, and that this isn't a priority issue, but it would be great if it can be fixed easily. Richard. -- Stupidity is its own reward.

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Silver Lining
by Darrell Anderson 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

I notice there are many bug reports being submitted. Quite a few have patches or suggestions for repairs. I have submitted my share and have included a few patches although I'm not a C++ hacker. At first glance I wonder how the developers will keep pace when GIT becomes available. Yet there is a silver lining with such a question. An increase in bug reports shows that TDE is popular and people are using TDE. I think that is good news. Hopefully such a thought provides encouragement to the developers. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Long-Standing Konsole Bug.
by Richard J.M. Hill 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

On Tuesday 22 November 2011, you wrote: > > Perhaps the word 'remnant' was a poor choice. I meant > > that the > > whole horizontal bead, and the space below it a few pixels > > thick, > > instead of just the frame (like on the sides of the > > window). > > Hmm. In both 3.5.10 and 3.5.13 all I see is a thin frame. > > Here are some screen grabs: > > 3.5.10: > http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/3.5.10.png > > 3.5.13: > http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/3.5.13.png > > Darrell > > Thanks for the feedback Darrell. It would appear that the issue has been partly addressed in Trinity. I just booted a live CD with TDE 3.5.13 built on Debian, and (like your screenshots) the 'bead' is not present. It has been present in KDE since 3.4.2ish. There is still the space (roughly 4 pixels thick) along the bottom edge of Konsole. This lies between the window border and Konsole's internal window frame. There is also the issue of this showing up in fullscreen mode. There was a time (at least back in the KDE 2.x days) when Konsole was completely borderless when in fullscreen mode. It is again in KDE 4. I personally prefer that, but I am not completely against retaining the thin frame which Trinity shows in fullscreen mode at the moment. I just want to get rid of the extra padding at the bottom so that it looks the same as along the sides. I should probably go and modify the bug report now. ;-) Richard. -- Stupidity is its own reward.

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Forced Window Sizes Broken?
by Darrell Anderson 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

I seem unable to force window sizes to remain set. For example, I resized my konsole window, from the Advanced menu set the window size to "Force." I restarted Trinity and the window size was back to the default. I exited Trinity and manually edited the kwinrulesrc file using the same data from my KDE3 profile. I started Trinity and again the window size was back to default. I can change the size of the window, set everything in Advanced, immediately reopen the window, and the size is back to default. Can anybody confirm this behavior? Darrell

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TDE App Descriptions
by Darrell Anderson 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

I created a new etherpad: http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/30 This pad contains an exhaustive outline list of TDE apps. The list is large and rather amazing by the size. This list will serve as the beginning of creating an apps description section for the web site. Feel free to edit the list. The next step is to start collecting descriptions and screen shots for the apps. Descriptions will be anywhere from one sentence to two paragraphs. Please share any ideas you have to programmatically collect those descriptions from an installed system, the SVN/GIT source file tree, or the web. I don't know how to properly set up a pad so if the permissions are screwed then let me know so I can learn. Thanks! Darrell

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Kmailrc File Type.
by Richard J.M. Hill 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

As far as I can tell, if a file contains a password (obfuscated) Konqueror doesn't recognize the file type. For example, on my system (Slackware 12.2 with KDE 3.5.10) Konqueror fails to recognize both kmailrc and kopeterc. If I make a copy of kmailrc and remove the password lines, then Konqueror recognizes the file as plain text. Richard. -- Stupidity is its own reward.

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