Form before function? Hmm. I better take a nap! :D
Darrell
--- On Fri, 3/18/11, Darrell Anderson humanreadable@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Darrell Anderson humanreadable@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed Artwork To: trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:40 PM Firefox did not establish any precedent. The Mozilla people barked and the Debian people jumped. Nothing legal was decided. Possibly the Mozilla people would have won had the Debian people resisted, but who knows?
I don't know about what Miguel de Icaza might have said. A first year law student would recognize such remarks as hearsay. :)
Bear in mind that right now most everybody is focused on creating a product: form before function. Cmake ports are more important to me right now than logos. :)
With that said, somebody probably needs to think about the issue. You might be correct that new logos are needed or are even wise. I don't have a dog in the fight. :)
Regarding art work, there is an entire package devoted to that: kdeartwork. You can download the 3.5.12 binary package, unzip/unpack, and then study everything. In that package you'll find screen savers, styles, themes, splash screens, emoticons, icons, sounds, and wallpaper.
Darrell
--- On Fri, 3/18/11, jamesg@dimensionality.com jamesg@dimensionality.com wrote:
From: jamesg@dimensionality.com
Subject: [trinity-devel] Trademarks and Needed
Artwork
To: trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:26 PM Darrell Anderson wrote:
Regarding that drawing you refer, I would vote
no.<
It's actually not a yes or no question, but then
you're
objecting to the entire idea in the first place...
Hold up in court? I can't imagine anybody from the
KDE
non-profit organization taking that issue to court.<
If it came to fistcuffs, trademark law would force
their
hand, lest anyone be able to use it for anything (and Firefox has
already
created the precedent, thus the existence of IceCat, IceWeasel, et
c.)
-- but there are other reasons we probably should have more
distinct
branding. As more people run into KDE 4+, do we really want branding confusable for theirs? So they see our logo and assume we're just like KDE 4
or 5
and use Gnome instead? (That would make Miguel de Icaza's day --
he
vehemently wants everything KDE related (this especially includes us)
to
cease to exist last I heard -- my interest in trying out Mono
evaporated
when I read that article...)
If nothing else, would it not be prudent to have
something
to use should things change and any reasons for not changing it evaporate?
If you are handy with art work (I am not! :)),
how
about working on some login splash screens for Trinity? Or some
wallpaper?<
The hard part I've been having is FINDING the
locations of
the artwork I consider most urgent to update (the KDE dragon artwork
when
one looks at Help->About Trinity in Konqueror, for a glaring example). Failing miserably at this, I've since decided to go with the
other
angle and simply find what I can that needs to be updated.
Most
of what I have so far are screenshots that need replacing.
If you can find the locations of things needing to be replaced (K-gear logos, cute dragon mascots, et c.) PLEASE add them
to:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/14
Many thanks in advance! 8)
Strangelv
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