28 Apr
2012
28 Apr
'12
3:46 p.m.
On Saturday 28 April 2012 15:52:13 Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
Martin Gräßlin wrote:
No, distributions package for what is demand.
E.g. Kubuntu is shipping in
12.04 four versions of KWin.
As we are currently talking of a not yet released version of KWin anyway it
does not make much sense to say there is a chicken-egg problem.
On Friday 27 April 2012 17:59:31 Julius
Schwartzenberg wrote:
True of course, but in this case there is a chicken and egg problem.
The kwin4 developers would like to see kwin4 being used outside of KDE4
and currently distribution packagers assume kwin4 is only meant to be
part of KDE4 and package it as such. Maybe the kwin4 developers themselves could
provide a stripped-down
version of kwin4 for multiple popular distributions? I would imagine
starting with adding a kwin-lite package to Debian/Ubuntu which would
only have the limited set of dependencies. Maybe people on other DEs
would like to use this package as well.
KDE developers do not do packaging. We have distributions for that. We
only
provide source code and the source code can be stripped down:
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/Build_Options
If anyone wants to have stripped down packages he has to do it. The KWin
developers will not do that for you, sorry. I am not so stupid to assume I
could make packages- I leave that to experts in packaging.
I'm not a packaging expert either. Although I may be able to look into
this in the future, I guess for now it would be good to create a report
maybe on Launchpad.
Martin, do you have a proposal for the name of this package? There seem
to be multiple kde-window-manager* packages already on Ubuntu. Would a
-lite suffix seem appropriate to you?
I have nothing to do with packaging. I cannot
give any recommendations. That's
up to the Ubuntu community.
But honestly I doubt that Ubuntu would include any Trinity specific version of
KWin given that there are no other packages for Trinity available.
With which options exactly would you compile this version? Would
disabling *all* build options give a representable build of kwin4? There
are some options that are not fully obvious to me. What happens when
kwin4 wouldn't have decorations?
well the options do what they name. If you
disable decorations there won't be
decorations, quite simple :-) It's a build option used for KDE's tablet user
interface.
So no turning all build options off doesn't make any sense.
If there would be a short set of complete commands to fetch the source,
configure it with limited dependencies, etc. it could also be put on the
Trinity wiki to encourage testing.
Excerpt from my Jenkins build job to test the
compile options used for Plasma
Active:
mkdir $WORKSPACE/../build
cd $WORKSPACE/../build
cmake -
DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/usr/share/tomcat7/.jenkins/jobs/kdelibs-4.8/install/ \
-DNepomuk_FOUND=FALSE \
-DWITH_OpenGL=OFF \
-DKWIN_PLASMA_ACTIVE=ON \
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$WORKSPACE/../install \
-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo \
$WORKSPACE/../../kde-workspace/workspace
cd kwin
make -j3
make install
So yes it is possible to have a small script :-)
Cheers
Martin