25 Nov
2011
25 Nov
'11
11:20 a.m.
Does it change to something different or does it just
revert to what
it was before you changed everything?
If it just refuses to save any changes, then no I have not
found a fix
for this. On my system Kate will no save
settings between start ups.
I gave up and went in and edited the files that store the
settings. I
have not upgraded to 3.5.13 yet (still trying to figure out
Arch and
solve broken hardware problems) so I don't know if it is
fixed there.
The problem turned out to be something obscure. I have a $KDEDIRS directory on my system.
For many years I stored my own revised *.desktop files there to fix problems in KDE3.
Worked wonderfully all of these years.
As I mentioned previously, I have used a kludge of sorts to run Kate with the old Projects
mode and MDI (multiple document interface). Basically I use kate and kde lib files from
KDE 3.4.3 and amazingly, this has worked through 3.5.10. I knew with TDE I no longer would
be able to do that. In preparation of starting to use TDE more often, I decided to end my
Kate adventure and start using the sessions version.
After some methodical troubleshooting, eventually I remembered I had Kate configuration
files, such as kateui.rc in my $KDEDIRS directory. These files were overriding anything I
tried to do in Kate. I moved those files and then finally I could configure the Kate
toolbars. The problem was these older config files worked for the older version of Kate
and not the newer sessions version.
I saw some strange things during my troubleshooting. For example, with each new document I
opened in Kate, the icon buttons in the Kate toolbar would shift left by one. You had to
see this --- like the app was possessed. :)
Well, I just don't like Kate sessions. Long ago I submitted a bug report/enhancement
request to provide the option of using Kate Projects and MDI rather than sessions and SDI.
I can only hope. I have the old 3.4.3 code around here on some old Mandrake CDs I think.
I mentioned with the start options you provided me that Kate no longer would pop to the
front and grab the focus unless I set focus stealing to none. Today I noticed a side
effect of that. I open my virtual machines in virtual desktop 2 and now whenever I do that
the focus shifts to that virtual desktop immediately. Not what I want because I prefer
them to open in the background as they take a minute or two to fully boot. Annoying. Yet
another reason not to like Kate sessions.
While surfing the web for clues about what was causing my momentary grief, I ran into
threads and discussions about Kate. My observation of these discussions is that to this
day, even in KDE 4.7.x, the Kate sessions model is broken and rarely functions the way
anybody expects or wants.
Darrell