Re: [trinity-devel] Poll

<snip> I have repeatedly gone out of my way to state that KDE4 is a perfectly valid desktop along with all the rest (Gnome, XFCE, etc). available for Linux. I have NEVER started a KDE4 bashing thread, and have always tried to differentiate based on feature sets and workflows instead of claiming that "TDE does everything". Almost every major argument comes up as a result of the KDE project bashing TDE or trying to replace core components willy-nilly, as happened most recently. That said, TDE users have a different opinion of how "today's applications" should look, feel, smell, act, and quack. :-) I don't see any reason that this differing opinion should be treated any differently than the continual ideological disagreement between the Gnome devs and the KDE devs (e.g. how a file dialog should look and act)--politely, without attempts to change user visible elements of the other desktop environment. What seems to be lost here is that I actually went out of my way to add the ability to use kwin4 in TDE. Because I didn't replace twin outright (even though I have outlined the steps many times before that would be required to even consider replacement) Martin went off on a TDE bashing spree. If anything, this is immature. I have repeatedly asked him for the technical reasons that he considers twin changes to have "broken" it, and I still do not have an answer. I would hate to see you go; I do not have an issue with KDE4 (other than that I personally have extreme difficulty using it in my daily work) or with its developers. With the exception of a few who want to squash the TDE traitors at all cost, I have no issues whatsoever with the KDE developers, and wish them the best of luck with their modern desktop environment. Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project