1 Feb
2012
1 Feb
'12
9:57 p.m.
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:54:23 -0600
"Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
[...]
Am 01.02.2012
20:47, schrieb Robert Xu:
As I said... "unless I am wrong" :-) I was speaking from past experience
only, and the basic steps outlined still hold. twin is not going to go
away, but kwin should be allowed (along with any other WM) in TDE
sessions.
I meant nepomuk, not akodanai. It can be hard to keep all of the (foreign
language) codenames straight in one's mind. :-)
On my Ubuntu system nepomuk has to be installed with kwin: All there:
https://gist.github.com/1718892
Feel free to speak up should you have an opinion - the door is always
open!
Before misinformation about KWin spread, I dare to speak up.
17:47:35 <kb9vqf-offsite> Personally I
would hate to have to install
kwin, which relies on a bunch of other KDE4 libraries and automatically
installs that akodani garbage scanner stuff, just to use TDE
Personally I hate statements without checking facts. KWin neither
requires Akonadi nor Nepomuk. My CI-system has neither one installed.
But to give proof:
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kde-window-manager | grep
akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-runtime | grep akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$ aptitude show kdebase-workspace-bin | grep
akonadi
martin@martin-thinkpad:~$
So this should not at all be a problem for Trinity - yeah \o/ :-) so that is NOT an option for me.
Gentoo doesn't appear to require nepomuk as a kwin dependency (~30 other
packages I don't have installed, yes, but not nepomuk), so I suspect you're
running into either an Ubuntu quirk or something to do with semantic desktops,
which are not an absolute requirement for KDE4 IIRC.
The main problem I'm seeing is kdelibs, which *is* a kwin dependency as far as I
can tell, and which wants to drag in strigi and a bunch of other unwanted-by-me
cruft ranging from phonon to consolekit. Either all references to kdelibs that can't
be replaced with tdelibs would need to be scrubbed from the kwin code, or a small
kdelibs-subset containing only the functions vital to kwin would need to be created.
Without knowing the code, I can't say whether that's possible or not--presumably,
Martin can tell us.
If we're going to include kwin in Trinity, we have to cut it down those of its
dependencies that aren't used by anything else to at most 2-3 smallish packages,
regardless of what those packages are, IMNSHO. Concentrating on
akonadi/strigi/nepomuk is a red herring.