17 Aug
2011
17 Aug
'11
6:07 p.m.
--- On Tue, 8/16/11, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
From: Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice 3.4.2
To: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 7:15 PM
Thank you for all the responses.
The whole point of my question, which I did not emphasize, is end-users should not need to
recompile LibreOffice to obtain native file picker dialog boxes. Support for native
dialogs should be transparent to users.
That OpenSuse provides such support does not help people using other distros. :)
My point is why can't the official release upstream from the Document Foundation
developers include that native support from the beginning? If we need to provide those
patches and hooks then fine, but the official build release of LibreOffice should not need
to be recompiled downstream.
If I understand correctly, compiling LibreOffice requires several hours, even on a modern
system. End users are not going to bother. Also, LibreOffice is not a standard app in all
distros. Therefore having native dialog box support upstream is best for all end users.
That approach eliminates packaging issues downstream. Further, even for those distros that
support LibreOffice, most if not all of the packagers could care less about KDE3/Trinity
support. They will ensure only that KDE4/GNOME is supported.
I believe that whatever effort or patches we provide should support the original KDE
3.5.10 too. KDE 3.5.10 is not yet dead despite whatever KDE developers want to believe. If
we provide patches that support both platforms then that shows we are embracing more than
just "our little world," which should motivate LibreOffice developers to embrace
our patches. At least support KDE3 in the beginning. I think once Trinity is again in the
news with the next official release that upstream attitudes will change and LibreOffice
developers will accept supporting native file pickers.
Although nice, I'm not concerned with complete look-and-feel compatibility with
KDE3/Trinity (for example, icons), just the file pickers. The LibreOffice file pickers are
sh*t. :)
Darrell
Today I updated LibreOffice to
version
3.4.2. The Slackware package is
nothing more than a converted RPM from the
upstream
Open Document
Foundation (ODF).
There is no support for KDE3 file picker dialog boxes.
No option even
exists in the Options.
I'm using 3.5.10, which is not Trinity, but I'm
guessing if the upstream
RPM from ODF is like this then Trinity likely
gets
miffed too.
How do we convince the ODF developers to directly
provide KDE3/Trinity
support upstream when they build their official
release?
Darrell
By providing a plugin that is maintained by the official
TDE project.
That is on our to-do list, but has not yet been started.
Essentially the following must happen:
1.) Pull the KDE3 picker code (including build script
alterations) from
the OpenOffice 3.2 / TDE 3.5.12 builds on QuickBuild.
2.) Ensure that they apply to LibreOffice and produce
working binaries on
TDE 3.5.13 with Qt3.
3.) Convert to TQt (a simple process that I can do in a day
or so AFAIK)
and rename all "KDE" strings to "TDE".
4.) Rebuild, test, etc. until everything works properly.
5.) Push the patches into our GIT and notify LibreOffice
that we have a
new plugin for them!
Volunteers are welcome as usual. ;-)
Tim
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