Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Saturday 21 April 2012 09:57:36 François ANDRIOT wrote:
All distro do not have the bleeding edge QT4 or KDE4 version. For example, RHEL use QT 4.6 and KDE 4.3 . In that case, is TDE supposed to provide QT 4.7 (or newer) and the latest kdelibs just to provide the latest kwin ? I don't think so.
I highly recommend to not use KWin 4.3 anymore. And RHEL or SLES are very bad examples. Users of those want the old versions and do neither want to install a recent version of KDE software nor of TDE software. They use the old system because of the provided security by RedHat or SUSE. Installing anything third party invalidates the reason to use RHEL/SLES in the first place.
Martin, this is wrong and IMHO very arrongant from you (and from what I have seen it's typical of the attitude of some KDE4 devs). There are many people (including myself) using RHEL6 (or rather one of it's clones Centos6 and SL6) on the desktop because it provides a >>STABLE BASE SYSTEM<<.
Most desktop users of EL6 clones will then make use of third party repos (as you might know there are several very large ones) in order to add desktop applications (not old versions!) and other enhachements including alternative DEs.
RHEL6/clones are actually a perfect match for TDE users as both the base system and the desktop can be considered conservative (not in the political sense) and stable.
If a switch to KWin4 would mean that new releases of TDE no longer work on RHEL6 and clones then I think this is a very bad move.
Also I fear that if TDE adopts KWin4 it will not have any influence on the direction of KWin4, basically it will be a 'take it or leave it' adoption. The IMHO quite condescending attitude that Martin has displayed in this thread makes that very likely.
Andy