Re: [trinity-devel] Trinity 3.5.13 Release Date

22 Oct 2011

...
   I ask because
I submitted many  bug reports and most of them remain open. A
  handful are critical if I am to migrate from KDE
 3.5.10 to Trinity. If I
  had to whittle my list to a few hopefuls for
3.5.13:

 293   Kde-config Incorrectly Creates a  Profile Folder in the System root
  directory
 388   KDESU Dialog Box Behavior
 393   Incorrect kdesu Behavior When  Opening Kate
  394   Problems with DCOP After Using 
kdesu
  296   New Trinity Profile Error  Messages
  335   Konqueror Icon Activation Effect
 389   Activation Effects
 385   Unmounted removable device icons  do not appear on the desktop
  303   Safely Unmount does not always 
remove the icon from the desktop
  258   ksmserver: Logout confirmation 
fadeaway is too slow with older
  hardware

 Some or all of these bugs might have been resolved  without the developer
  being aware of a bug report. Building and testing
the  packages will go far
  to help and might be the only way to confirm the
bug  is resolved. I hope
  to attempt building soon, which is why I started
this  thread, but did not
  want to start if development was still in
arrears.

 Darrell  
 Some of the kdesu bugs may have been fixed, but
 unfortunately no one has
 had a chance to work on the others AFAIK.  We are
 after all only human,
 with day jobs and other responsibilities to get in our way.
 ;-)

 I have decided to go ahead with the release in the hopes
 that the
 significant improvements may attract more developers, to
 avoid the project
 appearing dead, and to allow us to move to GIT (which may
 also help
 attract more developers).  This release is not perfect
 by any means, but
 it is still an improvement overall upon its predecessors.

 Tim 
Tim, no need to apologize. :) I have not participated in any testing all year because my
own schedule prevented that. I predicted that when 3.5.12 was released. My schedule is
starting to look like I might again be able to get involved as fall shifts into winter. I
might not be able to help before the planned release date but sometime before year's
end I expect to be able to help test building packages and test the software in action.

I understand the desire and reasons for releasing even if some serious bugs remain
outstanding. That happens with any software project. I expect after the release that key
developers will understandably want to disappear and rest for several weeks.

Hopefully thereafter the bug list receives serious attention. That was the plan after
3.5.12 until the shift to cmake happened.

I hope the wiki gets updated for transitioning to GIT. I haven't a clue how to migrate
from SVN to GIT or how to keep my local tree current. :)

I look forward to 3.5.13. I continue reading stories about dissatisfaction with KDE 4,
GNOME 3, Unity, etc. There are many users who want a full featured traditional desktop and
do not want the overhead of KDE 4 or the non-traditional desktops of GNOME 3 and Unity. I
believe Trinity will fill a void and will be well received if users believe there is
active development.

I suspect reviewers of 3.5.13 will incorrectly compare Trinity to KDE 4. :( I don't
know how to handle that misconception, but the 3.5.13 press release should reflect that
Trinity is an alternate desktop and is not a competitor of KDE 4. The focus should be on
traditional desktops and desktops intended for older and midweight hardware. Perhaps one
method to avoid comparisions to KDE 4 is to drop all comments that Trinity is a
continuation of KDE 3.5.10. Let Trinity stand on its own merits. Perhaps the 3.5.13 wiki
could be posted and everybody involved here can post comments in this list to help ensure
users and reviewers understand Trinity when they read the wiki and announcements.

Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Trinity 3.5.13 Release Date