4 Mar
2012
4 Mar
'12
1:47 p.m.
I appreciate the discussion Martin, especially coming
from you. You
have to understand that there are no distros (I've tried a few) that
have KDE 4 running in even 200MB quoted on the previous e-mail. I've
previously saw ~350MB on Gentoo, stripped down install, and never
less than 600MB on Ubuntu. Gnome 3 and Unity are similar, for
whatever reason. That's just a class of memory usage that's not
suited to a lot of devices. If you think it's possible to go lower,
much lower, I'd love to see that in default installs, as currently
RAM usage on Linux desktops is up to Windows standards and going
higher with each passing year, for no apparent reason to the end-user.
1) Sorry for
my misleading previous e-mail, the 200MB were for
Trinity+system and the 140 supplemental MBs for KDE4+new X server.
I did the tests again just after having uninstalled gtk+2 for the
purposes of the test (I have some python/gtk2 autostarted applets I
suspected of taking up some significant amounts of RAM):
-On console mode (with Intel KMS) the system takes 110 MB RAM (but it
could be better since I use the "huge" kernel, which is basically a
"make allyesconfig" kernel).
-With just KDE4 started, and a Konsole fired up from the Plasma
desktop, the total memory usage went up to 201 MB: 91 MB for KDE SC
4.4.3 + X server (Nepomuk, strigi and KWin desktop effects not
activated).
-With just Trinity started, and a Konsole fired up from kicker, the
total memory usage (KDE4 was exited) went up from 110 MB to 159 MB: 49
MB for Trinity 3.5.13 + X server.
2) Tiago, do you use x86 or amd64 ? There is a significant increase in
memory usage if you use amd64. The system on which I gave the RAM
measurements has x86 userland and amd64 kernel.
3) +1 for the defaults, I don't consider for example that setting the
Oxygen effects by default at "Very high CPU" is sane.
Best regards,
Tiago
>
> Kind Regards
> Martin Gräßlin
>
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