13 Nov
2011
13 Nov
'11
2:53 a.m.
Tim & Serghei
I understand your worries, and they are valid.
I also know that intelligent people do not take silence as a yes, but rather
as a no. In most cases anyway.
May I suggest a disclamer. Something like
NOTICE:
This/These email(s) is/are representative of the author's view(s) / opinion(s)
ALONE. The lack of response DOES NOT confirm this author's statements as
fact or as commonly accepted opinion. Nor do they represent the feelings
and/or view point of any party involved with the Trinity Project.
This/These email(s) are being delivered to all on the mailing list out of
respect for each individuals right to free speech and each person's right to
information without censorship. NOT as any form of agreement or confirmation
thereof.
Thank you
I hope this helps.
Kate
On Friday 11 November 2011, Timothy Pearson wrote:
And as an addendum I should probably post the reason that he was even
temporarily removed.
Remember that these lists are public and archived, and also that sometimes
people read the lists (e.g. via Google) before deciding to use a project.
That means that if we do not deal with baseless accusations against the
project they WILL pile up and cause us to lose users, developers, and over
time may accumulate enough to kill the project entirely.
On the other hand, if our developers spend all of their time debunking
said accusations properly, rationally, and logically, there will be no
time left to fix bugs and improve the project, thus killing it from
another angle.
My gut instinct was to remove the source of the baseless accusations. As
that is not an option at this point, we will need to set up a triage
system for dealing with such things. I cannot handle it alone; just
dealing with this and debunking the binary compatibility "problem" has
sucked up a lot of time that should have been spent on the move to GIT.
Be aware that while I will not be "censoring" the list, just ignoring
baseless criticism does NOT mean it just goes away. In fact, many people
will read the criticism and take our silence as confirmation that it is
correct.
Tim
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On Saturday 12 November 2011 01:06:57 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
OK. Technically I didn't ban him, just temporarily removed him from the
list as a "slap on the wrist" so to speak.
He is free to sign up again. I will not be responding to his posts, but
that does not mean that I agree with them at all.
Tim > Hello,
>
> I really dislike this kind of childish conflicts :(
Which is why I removed the source of the conflict.
What I am seeing is a fundamental difference in how the developers of
these two projects (TDE and his KDE:KDE3 repository) think a KDE3 fork
should be handled. I am more than willing to hear and act upon
*constructive* criticism, but so far Ilya has not provided so much as
one
sentence of well thought out and reasoned argument to this list.
Hi Tim,
Criticism of any kind (constructive or not) is a very important
component
of
freedom. It's just freedom of speech, if you do not like his ideas just
ignore it. As a person who lived under comunism I'm very sensitive to
any
kind of censorship (which is useless anyway in this case, because he can
express his opinions elsewhere). For this reason I hope you will change
your
mind and unban Ilya.
Thank you.
[...]
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Serghei