15 Jan
2021
15 Jan
'21
4:21 a.m.
On 2021-01-14 17:34:03 Jim via tde-devels wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 16:17 (-0500), E. Liddell
wrote:
If I try to bring up kcontrol when su'd to root inside a konsole
window, I get a blank left panel in kcontrol and the following:
ryu ~ # kcontrol
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 15:52:02.413] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[2021/01/14 15:52:02.451] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with
X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
The left panel is populated if I open kcontrol from the command line as
the logged-in user, and the buildsycoca, DCOP, and warning messages are
not printed.
So the problem is either something DCOPish, or something to do with that
warning message. Probably.
Jim, can you test to see if you get the same messages, so we can make
sure I'm not conflating two different problems?
Given that it works when I run from a "full TDE session", I am running
these commands from my trusty fvwm2 session, as started by xdm.
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.641] [tdebuildsycoca] Reusing existing tdesycoca.
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.860] [tdebuildsycoca] ERROR: tde-applications.menu not
found in (/home/zsd/.rpi4-4-files/config/menus/,/etc/xdg/menus/)
[2021/01/14 17:31:29.956] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[2021/01/14 17:31:30.306] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with
X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
I quit kcontrol and then a minute (or so) later ran it again. This time
I got
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:33:22.228] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with
X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
Twenty minutes later I ran it once more:
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 17:53:32.414] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[2021/01/14 17:53:33.073] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with
X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
How exactly did you su to root? If I just "su", /opt/trinity/bin is
in my PATH, whereas if I "sudo su" it is not.
You probably want to use su -, not just su. From info su:
| -, -l, --login
| Start the shell as a login shell with an environment similar to
a real login:
| o clears all the environment variables except TERM and
variables specified by --whitelist-environment
| o initializes the environment variables HOME, SHELL,
USER, LOGNAME, and PATH
| o changes to the target user's home directory
| o sets argv[0] of the shell to '-' in order to make the
shell a login shell
Without the login option, you're still pointing to your own home directory and
various environment variables, but running with root privileges.
Leslie
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:39:42 -0400
Jim via tde-devels <devels(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 19:00 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels wrote:
>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 18:42:12 Jim via tde-devels wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 17:36 (+0100), Slávek Banko via tde-devels
>>
>> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 13 of January 2021 16:49:00 Jim via tde-devels wrote:
>>>>> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION which may or may not help:
>>>>> When I start up kcontrol, the pane on the left which should have all
>>>>> sort of things (in an older version of TFE on another computer I
>>>>> have "Appearance & Themes", "Desktop",
"Internet & Network", and so
>>>>> on) is empty. Â So, again, it can't find whatever it is looking
for.
<snip>
Can you try it in a full TDE session?
Yes, as described above, if by "full session" we mean do both
-> use tdm display manager
and
-> start TDE session
then it works.
Given my "essentially nil" understanding of the code base, I don't
know if I can be much help tracking this down, but if you want me to
give something a try, just let me know. For the root output
below, I just did "su". And to start with a clean config, I did the
rm shown below
root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.ICEauthority ~/.config
/tmp/tde*root /tmp/.ICE-unix/ root@rpi4-4:/scratch/tmp# kcontrol
/usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/01/14 19:31:17.736] [kcontrol] WARNING: No TDE menu group with
X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
And no info in the left pane.
As an added bonus, here are the (apparently) relevant processes:
root 10818 1.0 0.6 49132 26780 pts/1 S 19:31 0:00 kcontrol
root 10823 0.0 0.2 36836 10824 ? Ss 19:31 0:00 [tdeinit]
tdeinit Running... root 10828 0.0 0.2 36600 8832 ? S
19:31 0:00 dcopserver [tdeinit] --nosid --suicide root 10831 0.0
0.3 37900 14684 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdelauncher [tdeinit]
--new-startup root 10833 0.0 0.4 38308 16076 ? S 19:31
0:00 kded [tdeinit] --new-startup root 10908 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ?
S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ root
10909 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file
[tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/ root 10910 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ?
S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file [tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
root 10911 0.0 0.3 37340 11872 ? S 19:31 0:00 tdeio_file
[tdeinit] file /tmp/tdesocket-root/
If that information is not what you are looking for, let me know.
Jim
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