All, Built and installed knemo, my favorite network monitor. The first thing I notices was there was no menu entry created? IIRC there was always a launcher. Not a huge problem, 'kcmshell kcm_knemo' fires the config right up. Configure it to taste, set nettools backend to sys and --- nothing shows up in the systray? Tweak config, try NetTools backend, delete eth0 and recreate, still - no knemo in systray. Hmm - anyone else see this? [ ] hide when not connected - unchecked :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.