On 05/07/2012 01:19 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Monday 07 May 2012 08:12:48 Carolin Liefke wrote:
I asked about that before, but you didn't comment on it - what happened to this package in 12.1 since it's not in the repos?
It requires hal.
The reality is there is NO 'drop-in' replacement for HAL for either openSuSE's builds of KDE3 or TDE -- yet.
HAL will be removed from both and all of the desired functionality WILL be preserved going forward -- BUT -- it will take time to iron all the issues out and make the transition. HAL is tightly integrated with the core of KDE3. As a result, moving away from HAL will take significant effort both from the gifted developers that code the removal AND from the user-base to provide feedback and bug reports of what does and does not work.
If we were smart, we would coordinate the transition away from HAL among all the projects that support and develop KDE3 so that all projects can collaborate on the effort and benefit from what has already been done. Primarily to keep from reinventing the wheel and prevent against inconstancies being introduced by independent solutions.
There is nothing wrong with exploring and attempting different solutions along the way, but there should be a common road-map to insure we all end up at the same finish line.
What are your thoughts on where/how to coordinate these efforts?
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On 05/07/2012 01:19 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Monday 07 May 2012 08:12:48 Carolin Liefke wrote:
I asked about that before, but you didn't comment on it - what happened to this package in 12.1 since it's not in the repos?
It requires hal.
The reality is there is NO 'drop-in' replacement for HAL for either openSuSE's builds of KDE3 or TDE -- yet.
R14.0 has a pretty good replacement in the works. It's alpha quality at the moment, but much better than losing all removable device handling and power management.
Pass -DWITH_TDEHWLIB="on" to tdebase to build with the HAL replacement.
Tim
On 05/07/2012 01:12 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
R14.0 has a pretty good replacement in the works. It's alpha quality at the moment, but much better than losing all removable device handling and power management.
Pass -DWITH_TDEHWLIB="on" to tdebase to build with the HAL replacement.
Tim
That's pretty slick. The discussion on the opensuse-kde3 list pretty much mirrors Darrell's sentiments. (looking forward to the move, but needing to preserve usability until the replacement has matured and is reliable)
I know not what all it involved from a code standpoint, but I hope you smart guys are keeping an eye on what works the best between all the various efforts to replace HAL and cherrypicking the good parts for TDE :)
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