14 May
2012
14 May
'12
9:02 p.m.
Tim,
As with Libre has anyone looked at dialogs for OpenOffice? Apache
openoffice 3.4 was just released and it works great:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
It is much.., much... more responsive that LO and avoids a couple of nasty
formatting bugs that affect line/character spacing in LO. Apache OO does have
a nice GTK file browser by default (like the tde browser), but it would be
nice to have an integrated browser for AOO as well.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
15 May
15 May
12:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 14 May 2012 17:02, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
Tim,
As with Libre has anyone looked at dialogs for OpenOffice? Apache
openoffice 3.4 was just released and it works great:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
It is much.., much... more responsive that LO and avoids a couple of nasty
formatting bugs that affect line/character spacing in LO. Apache OO does
have a nice GTK file browser by default (like the tde browser), but it would
be nice to have an integrated browser for AOO as well.
For Pete's Sake! Haven't you been keeping up with the news? (old
news). Most developers ditched OO.org because their cough cough great
parent company was causing more problems than they resolved.
LibreOffice forked with a open source and group run mentality. No more
corporate crap. Steadily they've been whittling away at the cruft of
years and years of badly written code and to much damned Java. Then
Oracle ditches OO.org to apache who for some inexplicable reason takes
the project on. Down with Open Office! *
Using OO.org would be like sending patches to the xfree86 project.
Calvin
* probably incorrect in some places, a bit biased
16 May
16 May
5:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 05/14/2012 07:43 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
For Pete's Sake! Haven't you been keeping up
with the news? (old
news). Most developers ditched OO.org because their cough cough great
parent company was causing more problems than they resolved.
LibreOffice forked with a open source and group run mentality. No more
corporate crap. Steadily they've been whittling away at the cruft of
years and years of badly written code and to much damned Java. Then
Oracle ditches OO.org to apache who for some inexplicable reason takes
the project on. Down with Open Office! *
Using OO.org would be like sending patches to the xfree86 project.
Calvin
* probably incorrect in some places, a bit biased
Yes, Yes, Yes, No - not any longer, just the opposite, different conclusion.
Apache has done a great job with OO, so all that Oracle did, or didn't do, with
it -- is irrelevant now.
I cannot currently use LO due to the formatting bug leaving LO incapable of
reproducing the 1000's of OO documents I have correctly. (Yes -- it does make a
big difference to the court if they ask for a copy of an order or judgment and
paragraph 46 is now on page 7 instead of page 6) I opened this bug with LO over
a year ago and typical from that project -- nothing has been done.
OO, on the other hand, continues to accurately reproduce documents from all
prior versions of OO - that is the bare minimum of what a word processor must do.
So, for different reasons, I come to a different conclusion. The Apache project
is an "Open Source" project in the truest sense of the term -- and we as
packagers/developers should embrace their project -- we certainly don't having a
problem using their web server....
Another Giant ding against LO is it is just S L O W compared to OO. Startup
time, document open time, etc.... There have been some very poor design choices
made in LO that have led to these issues.
The one thing required in any serious document production environment is that a
word processor accurately reproduce files it created in the past. If it doesn't
-- it is of no use to me.
The latest build for AOO is in AUR -- give it a shot -- I bet it will change
your opinion -- then figure out the coding for the Qt3 dialogs :)
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
21 May
21 May
6:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 05/14/2012 04:02 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Tim,
As with Libre has anyone looked at dialogs for OpenOffice? Apache openoffice
3.4 was just released and it works great:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
It is much.., much... more responsive that LO and avoids a couple of nasty
formatting bugs that affect line/character spacing in LO. Apache OO does have a
nice GTK file browser by default (like the tde browser), but it would be nice to
have an integrated browser for AOO as well.
I talked with the Apache folks about TDE integration in OpenOffice. They said if
somebody will develop and maintain the patch, they will include it in
OpenOffice. My contact was with Ariel Constenla-Haile arielch at apache.org. I
don't know if the old kde3 integration would just plug-in for TDE or not and I
have no idea how to go about it, but if we can adapt the libreoffice one for
openoffice, or something similar, that would be great to have TDE support in both.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
7:30 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 05/21/2012 01:10 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 05/14/2012 04:02 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
For now, if you have the GTK2 libraries installed along with TDE, you can use
the GTK file chooser with OpenOffice (dual pane, folders on left, files on
right -- quite good).
To use the GTK dialogs with OpenOffice on TDE, in your bashrc:
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome
The start OO and choose:
Options->OpenOffice.org->General, then uncheck
[ ] Use OpenOffice.org Dialogs
You will then have usable file dialogs in OO. (the same should work in LO)
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Tim,
As with Libre has anyone looked at dialogs for OpenOffice? Apache openoffice
3.4 was just released and it works great:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/
It is much.., much... more responsive that LO and avoids a couple of nasty
formatting bugs that affect line/character spacing in LO. Apache OO does have a
nice GTK file browser by default (like the tde browser), but it would be nice to
have an integrated browser for AOO as well.
I talked with the Apache folks about TDE integration in OpenOffice. They said if
somebody will develop and maintain the patch, they will include it in
OpenOffice. My contact was with Ariel Constenla-Haile arielch at apache.org. I
don't know if the old kde3 integration would just plug-in for TDE or not and I
have no idea how to go about it, but if we can adapt the libreoffice one for
openoffice, or something similar, that would be great to have TDE support in both.
8:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
To use the GTK dialogs with OpenOffice on TDE, in your
bashrc:
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome
The start OO and choose:
Options->OpenOffice.org->General, then uncheck
[ ] Use OpenOffice.org Dialogs
You will then have usable file dialogs in OO. (the same
should work in LO)
If we rebuild LO/OO with the TDE patch, do we still need this environment variable? If
yes, then if I read the TDE patch correctly, the correct parameter is "tde."
Darrell
22 May
22 May
1:43 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 05/21/2012 03:03 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
If we rebuild LO/OO with the TDE patch, do we still
need this environment variable? If yes, then if I read the TDE patch correctly, the
correct parameter is "tde."
Darrell
Yes,
Another way is to modify the .desktop files for soffice (writer, calc,
impress, etc..) so the Exec= line reads:
Exec=OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=tde soffice %U
The alternative would be to modify your bashrc or the system wide bashrc.local to:
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=tde
In the past, that is what has been required to specify the filechooser. I.e.:
OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome soffice
OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde soffice
OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde4 soffice
now looks like we can add:
OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=tde
Tim, do you know if this same patch will work with openoffice? If so, I can
try a rebuild of OO with it and pass it along to OO if it works.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
5:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] apache OpenOffice TDE Integration?
On 05/21/2012 03:03 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
> If we rebuild LO/OO with the TDE patch, do we still need this
> environment variable? If yes, then if I read the TDE patch correctly,
> the correct parameter is "tde."
>
LO will automatically detect a running TDE session--no need to manually
set environment variables unless you are running under LXDE or some other
desktop.
Tim, do you know if this same patch will work with
openoffice? If so, I
can
try a rebuild of OO with it and pass it along to OO if it works.
You can try...one build environment (for LibreOffice) is enough for me.
Getting everything downloaded and built for something the size of LO/OOo
is not exactly fun.
Bear in mind that OOo probably uses a different build system at this point
than LO does, so the patch probably won't even apply. You would have to
manually cobble together the appropriate build system patches to make it
compile.
Tim
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