On 03/24/2012 11:45 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote: It does, I'm also going to check the code of the tdesvn and tdesdk version of the same files to see if that may not be where some issues are arising with kio on various protocols. I think the latest stable release of openssl just killed fish://. If so, that means we currently have no sftp:// or fish:// in tde... bummer. I know those aren't the protocols at issue, but it will be interesting to see if the tdesvn and tdesdk files are consistent... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 03/25/2012 12:31 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: OK, Here is what I've done. I split the tdesvn package into two packages 'tde-tdesvn' and 'tde-kiosvn' making tde-kiosvn a dependency of tde-tdesvn and of tde-tdesdk. Now the conflict is gone and both tdesvn and tdesdk will pull in kiosvn. The only remaining question is whether there is any functional difference in the kio_svn and kio_ksvn calls. Confirmation of the packaging: 14:08 nirvana:~/tde/bld/tde-tdesvn> diff tdesvn-full.txt tdesvn-nokio.txt 398,402d397 < tde-tdesvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+file.protocol < tde-tdesvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+http.protocol < tde-tdesvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+https.protocol < tde-tdesvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+ssh.protocol < tde-tdesvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn.protocol 14:08 nirvana:~/tde/bld/tde-tdesvn> pacman -Qpl tde-kiosvn-3513_tqt-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz tde-kiosvn /opt/ tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/ tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/ tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/ tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+file.protocol tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+http.protocol tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+https.protocol tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+ssh.protocol tde-kiosvn /opt/trinity/share/services/svn.protocol -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 03/25/2012 02:23 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote: Just for Arch. This is a TDE problem, but it can be addressed by packaging right now as long a kio_svn and kio_ksvn are interchangeable (still have to test). This IS a TDE problem though that will need to be fixed. We can't have two independent TDE packages (tdesvn and tdesdk) that produce the same five files: /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+file.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+http.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+https.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+ssh.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn.protocol I looked at bit at the tdesvn code (kiosvn.cpp) and it doesn't look like too much of a problem to fix internally. I think the proper long-term solution IS to split the packages in TDE to create something like 'tde-kiosvn' since we have two packages that require the same capabilities. It looks like the reason we currently have tdesvn producing what are effectively duplicate protocol files in its build was from some earlier attempt to get rid of the file conflicts with tdesdk in the first place: /opt/trinity/share/services/ksvn+file.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/ksvn+http.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/ksvn+https.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/ksvn+ssh.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/ksvn.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+file.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+http.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+https.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn+ssh.protocol /opt/trinity/share/services/svn.protocol I'll have to confirm further, but initially it looks like the svn+*.protocol should have been dropped when the ksvn+*.protocol files were added to begin with. Now those files essentially duplicate each other. Checking my opensuse 3.5.10 install, svn+*.protocol is provided by kdesvn while kdesdk provides NO .protocol files at all. Another way to do this is just to make tdesvn a dependency of tdesdk and drop the protocol files from tdesdk altogether. (I like that idea) No split package and the tdesvn overhead is small: 1848392 Mar 25 13:44 tde-tdesvn-3513_tqt-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz 1.8M - no biggie. What do you think? Which option do you like the best? (1) create a 3rd package with the common files to prevent conflict. (2) simply drop the .protocol files from tdesdk and making tdesvn a dependency of tdesdk. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 03/25/2012 04:29 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote: Yes, but I don't think that would work. Since neither are a dependency of the other a user could choose to install either and for the packager, there is no way to know the user's choice at build time. So it has to be handled from a TDE or packaging standpoint. Preferably from a TDE standpoint. I still think it needs to be a: (2) drop .protocol files from tdesdk and make tdesvn a dependency of tdesdk. - or to keep completely independent packages - a proper, but painful (3) rewrite the tdesdk code to use and install svnsdk+file.protocol, etc.. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 03/25/2012 12:14 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: <snip> The primary difference (aside from translation Description differences) is that tdesdk files use 'exec=kio_svn' while tdesvn files use 'exec=kio_ksvn'. So they are not 1-for-1 replacements: for i in tdesdkSvcs/*; do echo -e "\ndiff $i tdesvnSvcs/${i##*/}\n"; diff $i tdesvnSvcs/${i##*/}; done diff tdesdkSvcs/svn+file.protocol tdesvnSvcs/svn+file.protocol 2c2 < exec=kio_svn --- 11a12 diff tdesdkSvcs/svn+http.protocol tdesvnSvcs/svn+http.protocol 2c2 < exec=kio_svn --- 11a12 diff tdesdkSvcs/svn+https.protocol tdesvnSvcs/svn+https.protocol 2c2 < exec=kio_svn --- 11a12 diff tdesdkSvcs/svn.protocol tdesvnSvcs/svn.protocol 2c2 < exec=kio_svn --- 11a12 24d24 diff tdesdkSvcs/svn+ssh.protocol tdesvnSvcs/svn+ssh.protocol 2c2 < exec=kio_svn --- 11a12 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 03/25/2012 12:47 AM, Darrell Anderson wrote: OK, I've decided to repackage tdesdk and remove the conflicting files. We will drop a note about the requirement to install tdesvn for the svn kio capability. The tdesvn package provides the same capabilities so we should be fine. I'll just list tdesvn as a dependency of tdesdk. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.