Hi,
I want to propose a new color theme and graph settings for KSysGuard, because the actual one are rather ugly and visually overloaded, to my opinion. I also wanted to post screenshot of different system monitors available on other OSes or on other desktop environment.
Thank you! Tell me what you think! -Alexandre
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On 01/30/2015 09:33 AM, Alexandre wrote:
Hi,
I want to propose a new color theme and graph settings for KSysGuard, because the actual one are rather ugly and visually overloaded, to my opinion. I also wanted to post screenshot of different system monitors available on other OSes or on other desktop environment.
Thank you! Tell me what you think! -Alexandre
Good point, the current colors are really old style IMO. The proposed colors looks better, although I would make the writing a little more visible. Another possibility would be to use a slightly pale background instead of white. Could you try a few variations and sned them in?
In general though, I think a rework of the current Ksysguard graph is what is really needed. The ones from KDE4 and Gnome looks much better.
By the way, your desktop background looks quite nice. Is it possible for you to share it as well? Cheers Michele
Good point, the current colors are really old style IMO. The proposed colors looks better, although I would make the writing a little more visible. Another possibility would be to use a slightly pale background instead of white. Could you try a few variations and sned them in?
Yes. From the proposed ones, the ones I prefer are either white or window background gray.
One thing: The horizontal lines and the text has only 1 common color setting. Also, maybe reverse color (as we see often for the percent text on a progress bar) could be good for the text, or having the scale text at the left of the graph, instead of in the graph.
Talking about the scales, I think that for the ram and swap graphs, the size could be written in GB, not in MB, since modern computers have much more ram than in the past. Also, when scales doesn't fit mathematically on a perfect number (as 1/3 = 0,333333333), I think that displaying 2 numbers after the point is enough (as 0,33).
In general though, I think a rework of the current Ksysguard graph is what is really needed. The ones from KDE4 and Gnome looks much better.
They look better, and they update the graph faster than 1 time/second, so it appear to move much more smoothly. Also, with the speed of modern computer, maybe some info is missed because of the slow update.
By the way, your desktop background looks quite nice. Is it possible for you to share it as well?
Of course, here it is: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Country-Road?content=168594
Cheers Michele
I also post a picture of the Win 8.1 task manager. While Win is not always the best OS, I think that Win 8.1 task manager is very well crafted, and could be inspired from if one day TDE's task manager is to be redesigned. It shows easily all the info I want to see in a task manager, separated by sections for ram, cpu, hdd and network, while still showing a little graph of each one, to see easily what happens with your system.
Thank you! -Alexandre
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On 01/31/2015 11:27 PM, Alexandre wrote:
Good point, the current colors are really old style IMO. The proposed colors looks better, although I would make the writing a little more visible. Another possibility would be to use a slightly pale background instead of white. Could you try a few variations and sned them in?
Yes. From the proposed ones, the ones I prefer are either white or window background gray.
One thing: The horizontal lines and the text has only 1 common color setting. Also, maybe reverse color (as we see often for the percent text on a progress bar) could be good for the text, or having the scale text at the left of the graph, instead of in the graph.
Talking about the scales, I think that for the ram and swap graphs, the size could be written in GB, not in MB, since modern computers have much more ram than in the past. Also, when scales doesn't fit mathematically on a perfect number (as 1/3 = 0,333333333), I think that displaying 2 numbers after the point is enough (as 0,33).
In general though, I think a rework of the current Ksysguard graph is what is really needed. The ones from KDE4 and Gnome looks much better.
They look better, and they update the graph faster than 1 time/second, so it appear to move much more smoothly. Also, with the speed of modern computer, maybe some info is missed because of the slow update.
By the way, your desktop background looks quite nice. Is it possible for you to share it as well?
Of course, here it is: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Country-Road?content=168594
Thanks!
Cheers Michele
I also post a picture of the Win 8.1 task manager. While Win is not always the best OS, I think that Win 8.1 task manager is very well crafted, and could be inspired from if one day TDE's task manager is to be redesigned. It shows easily all the info I want to see in a task manager, separated by sections for ram, cpu, hdd and network, while still showing a little graph of each one, to see easily what happens with your system.
Thank you! -Alexandre
I think the first version was better, IMO. Let's see if anyone else has any comment, otherwise I will push that version. Can you send in the modified files?
Cheers Michele
On Sunday 01 February 2015 10:37:34 pm Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 01/31/2015 11:27 PM, Alexandre wrote:
Good point, the current colors are really old style IMO. The proposed colors looks better, although I would make the writing a little more visible. Another possibility would be to use a slightly pale background instead of white. Could you try a few variations and sned them in?
Yes. From the proposed ones, the ones I prefer are either white or window background gray.
One thing: The horizontal lines and the text has only 1 common color setting. Also, maybe reverse color (as we see often for the percent text on a progress bar) could be good for the text, or having the scale text at the left of the graph, instead of in the graph.
Talking about the scales, I think that for the ram and swap graphs, the size could be written in GB, not in MB, since modern computers have much more ram than in the past. Also, when scales doesn't fit mathematically on a perfect number (as 1/3 = 0,333333333), I think that displaying 2 numbers after the point is enough (as 0,33).
In general though, I think a rework of the current Ksysguard graph is what is really needed. The ones from KDE4 and Gnome looks much better.
They look better, and they update the graph faster than 1 time/second, so it appear to move much more smoothly. Also, with the speed of modern computer, maybe some info is missed because of the slow update.
By the way, your desktop background looks quite nice. Is it possible for you to share it as well?
Of course, here it is: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Country-Road?content=168594
Thanks!
Cheers Michele
I also post a picture of the Win 8.1 task manager. While Win is not always the best OS, I think that Win 8.1 task manager is very well crafted, and could be inspired from if one day TDE's task manager is to be redesigned. It shows easily all the info I want to see in a task manager, separated by sections for ram, cpu, hdd and network, while still showing a little graph of each one, to see easily what happens with your system.
Thank you! -Alexandre
I think the first version was better, IMO. Let's see if anyone else has any comment, otherwise I will push that version. Can you send in the modified files?
Cheers Michele
No real preference, a comment though. I like/need more contrast than the newer iterations of DE's are providing. i.e., the icons in the menu of the ksysguard_proposed_colors.png are hard on the eyes.
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On 02/02/2015 05:25 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
On Sunday 01 February 2015 10:37:34 pm Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 01/31/2015 11:27 PM, Alexandre wrote:
Good point, the current colors are really old style IMO. The proposed colors looks better, although I would make the writing a little more visible. Another possibility would be to use a slightly pale background instead of white. Could you try a few variations and sned them in?
Yes. From the proposed ones, the ones I prefer are either white or window background gray.
One thing: The horizontal lines and the text has only 1 common color setting. Also, maybe reverse color (as we see often for the percent text on a progress bar) could be good for the text, or having the scale text at the left of the graph, instead of in the graph.
Talking about the scales, I think that for the ram and swap graphs, the size could be written in GB, not in MB, since modern computers have much more ram than in the past. Also, when scales doesn't fit mathematically on a perfect number (as 1/3 = 0,333333333), I think that displaying 2 numbers after the point is enough (as 0,33).
In general though, I think a rework of the current Ksysguard graph is what is really needed. The ones from KDE4 and Gnome looks much better.
They look better, and they update the graph faster than 1 time/second, so it appear to move much more smoothly. Also, with the speed of modern computer, maybe some info is missed because of the slow update.
By the way, your desktop background looks quite nice. Is it possible for you to share it as well?
Of course, here it is: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Country-Road?content=168594
Thanks!
Cheers Michele
I also post a picture of the Win 8.1 task manager. While Win is not always the best OS, I think that Win 8.1 task manager is very well crafted, and could be inspired from if one day TDE's task manager is to be redesigned. It shows easily all the info I want to see in a task manager, separated by sections for ram, cpu, hdd and network, while still showing a little graph of each one, to see easily what happens with your system.
Thank you! -Alexandre
I think the first version was better, IMO. Let's see if anyone else has any comment, otherwise I will push that version. Can you send in the modified files?
Cheers Michele
No real preference, a comment though. I like/need more contrast than the newer iterations of DE's are providing. i.e., the icons in the menu of the ksysguard_proposed_colors.png are hard on the eyes.
Good point. Perhaps it would be better to add "predefined styles" to KSysGuard, so that the user can easily choose its preference. What do you think?
Cheers Michele
I think the first version was better, IMO. Let's see if anyone else has any comment, otherwise I will push that version. Can you send in the modified files?
Cheers Michele
No real preference, a comment though. I like/need more contrast than the newer iterations of DE's are providing. i.e., the icons in the menu of the ksysguard_proposed_colors.png are hard on the eyes.
Icons are not part of KSysguard, so there is no need to do this. These are part of the KFaenza icon theme.
Good point. Perhaps it would be better to add "predefined styles" to KSysGuard, so that the user can easily choose its preference. What do you think?
Cheers Michele
Ok, I will provide the modified file in the next few days, but there is still some changes that would be good to do to KSysGuard, as I wrote earlier.
Thank you! -Alexandre
Hi,
Here is the color file, with a screenshot!
Thank you! -Alexandre
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Hi,
Here is the color file, with a screenshot!
Thank you! -Alexandre
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but having used the earliest versions of Windows (e.g. 3.1 and friends) this feels like a giant throwback in the color palette. So does Windows 8.
Tim
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but having used the earliest> versions of Windows (e.g. 3.1 and friends) this feels like a giant> throwback in the color palette. So does Windows 8. Tim
Well well well. Big parts of TDE are giant throwbacks if nothing is done about it... Much worse than that. Frozen in Win Nt4.
-Alexandre
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On 2015/02/09 09:01 AM, Alexandre wrote:
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but having used the
earliest> versions of Windows (e.g. 3.1 and friends) this feels like a giant> throwback in the color palette. So does Windows 8.
Tim
Well well well. Big parts of TDE are giant throwbacks if nothing is done about it... Much worse than that. Frozen in Win Nt4.
-Alexandre
Probably the best solution is to add theme support for KSysGuard and a few default themes. Then each user can select the ones he prefers :-) I will open a bug report for this enhancement as soon as I have some time for TDE.
Cheers Michele
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On 02/07/2015 11:35 PM, Alexandre wrote:
Hi,
Here is the color file, with a screenshot!
Thank you! -Alexandre
I have created an enhancement request bug 2366 for adding style support in KSysGuard. Attached to the bug is the proposed style.
Cheers Michele
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