22 Feb
2014
22 Feb
'14
7:07 a.m.
Is the module dependencies/tqca still needed?
I use dependencies/tqca-tls, but not tqca. Also there has been no commit in tqca since Jul
2012.
cheers
Michele
22 Feb
22 Feb
7:20 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
On 02/22/2014 01:07 AM, Michele Calgaro wrote:
Is the module dependencies/tqca still needed?
I use dependencies/tqca-tls, but not tqca. Also there has been no commit in tqca since
Jul 2012.
cheers
Michele
I do not know the details, but I am building just tqca-tls as well. Someone who
knows the history/requirements will have to enlighten us.
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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
23 Feb
23 Feb
1:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
On Saturday 22 of February 2014 09:00:19 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Yes, it is used tqca-tls, but tqca not.
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Slavek
I do not know
the details, but I am building just tqca-tls as well.
Someone who knows the history/requirements will have to enlighten us.
I added it to bug 1937 as a possible candidate for removal.
Michele
24 Feb
24 Feb
5:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
On Sun February 23 2014 7:53:56 am Slávek Banko wrote:
On Saturday 22 of February 2014 09:00:19 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
Yes, it is used tqca-tls, but tqca not.
Both packages once were part of the overall KDE 3 build. What changed that tqca seems to
be not needed?
--
Darrell
I do not
know the details, but I am building just tqca-tls as well.
Someone who knows the history/requirements will have to enlighten us.
I added it to bug 1937 as a possible candidate for removal.
Michele
10:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:25:37 -0600
Darrell <darrella(a)clovermail.net> wrote:
On Sun February 23 2014 7:53:56 am Slávek Banko
wrote:
qca-tls depends on qca--in fact, as far as I can tell, it's a qca plugin. I assume
the same is true of their t* versions.
akio ~ # equery depends -a qca
* These packages depend on qca:
[...]
app-crypt/qca-tls-1.0-r4 (=app-crypt/qca-1*)
akio ~ # cat /var/lib/layman/kde-sunset/app-crypt/qca-tls/qca-tls-1.0-r4.ebuild
[...]
DESCRIPTION="plugin to provide SSL/TLS capability to programs that utilize QCA"
Do we know which applications are using this, and has anyone tested their
crypto/SSL capabilities (since this seems to be [t]qca's purpose)?
E. Liddell
On Saturday 22 of February 2014 09:00:19 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
Yes, it is used tqca-tls, but tqca not.
Both packages once were part of the overall KDE 3 build. What changed that tqca seems to
be not needed? I do not
know the details, but I am building just tqca-tls as well.
Someone who knows the history/requirements will have to enlighten us.
I added it to bug 1937 as a possible candidate for removal.
Michele
11:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
qca-tls depends on qca--in fact, as far as I can tell,
it's a qca plugin. I assume
the same is true of their t* versions.
That is what I thought. The qca package is still built in Slackware releases, albeit,
updated to version 2.0.2.
Do we know which applications are using this, and has
anyone tested their
crypto/SSL capabilities (since this seems to be [t]qca's purpose)?
I know of no tests ever being conducted.
Grepping through the source tree, I find the following use qca.h:
dependencies/tqca-tls/qcaprovider.h:29:#include"qca.h"
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/securestream.h:24:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/tlshandler.cpp:24:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/protocol.cpp:28:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/stream.cpp:50:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/simplesasl.cpp:27:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/xmpp-core/connector.cpp:35:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/iris/jabber/s5b.cpp:28:#include <qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/qca/src/qcaprovider.h:29:#include
"qca.h"
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/qca/src/qca.h:2: * qca.h - TQt Cryptographic
Architecture
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/qca/src/qca.cpp:21:#include "qca.h"
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/libiris/cutestuff/network/httppoll.cpp:27:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/jabberclient.cpp:27:#include <qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/jabberaccount.cpp:28:#include <qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/jabber/ui/jabberregisteraccount.cpp:36:#include <qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/qcatlshandler.cpp:22:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/tests/clientstream_test.h:22:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/securestream.h:24:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/gwclientstream.h:23:#include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/qca/src/qcaprovider.h:29:#include
"qca.h"
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/qca/src/qca.h:2: * qca.h - TQt
Cryptographic Architecture
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/qca/src/qca.cpp:21:#include
"qca.h"
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/libgroupwise/gwclientstream.cpp:24:// #include
<qca.h>
tdenetwork/kopete/protocols/groupwise/gwaccount.cpp:46:#include <qca.h>
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Darrell
25 Feb
25 Feb
6:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
In Debian/Jessie, tqca-tls builds without the need for building tqca.
Could you try in other distro and see if tqca-tls builds in the same way?
If so, we can then drop tqca from the repo.
Cheers
Michele
11:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:10:00 +0000 (GMT)
Michele Calgaro <michele.calgaro(a)yahoo.it> wrote:
In Debian/Jessie, tqca-tls builds without the need for
building tqca.
Could you try in other distro and see if tqca-tls builds in the same way?
If so, we can then drop tqca from the repo.
My concern is that tqca-tls may compile but not actually *work* in
the absence of tqca. Plugins can be really weird in how they link
stuff together. Also, kopete seems to have a direct tqca dependency
for some protocols (jabber and groupwise, judging from what
Darrell found). We need to test not just the compiling, but the
functionality of these packages before we can justify dropping tqca.
E. Liddell
26 Feb
26 Feb
1:56 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
My concern is that tqca-tls may compile but not
actually *work* in
the absence of tqca. Plugins can be really weird in how they link
stuff together. Also, kopete seems to have a direct tqca dependency
for some protocols (jabber and groupwise, judging from what
Darrell found). We need to test not just the compiling, but the
functionality of these packages before we can justify dropping tqca.
I see your point. If tqca-tls requires tqca for working correctly, then we will need to
make it dependent on tqca for installation.
Any way we could make a test for it? (I am no tqca expert at all :( )
Michele
2:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
Dne st 26. února 2014 Michele Calgaro napsal(a):
If I understand correctly, tqca is as a third-party "embedded" into
Kopete. Hence on the tqca seemingly none depend and depends only on the
tqca-tls, which is built as a library.
It therefore seems a good reason to not remove tqca. And in the future
decide if tqca also build as a library. I think that for now we should
postpone this question.
--
Slavek
My concern is
that tqca-tls may compile but not actually *work* in
the absence of tqca. Plugins can be really weird in how they link
stuff together. Also, kopete seems to have a direct tqca dependency
for some protocols (jabber and groupwise, judging from what
Darrell found). We need to test not just the compiling, but the
functionality of these packages before we can justify dropping tqca.
I see your point. If tqca-tls requires tqca for working correctly, then
we will need to make it dependent on tqca for installation. Any way we
could make a test for it? (I am no tqca expert at all :( )
Michele
6:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] dependencies/tqca still needed?
It therefore seems a good reason to not remove tqca.
And in the future
decide if tqca also build as a library. I think that for now we should
postpone this question.
I agree. We have about 150 bug reports that have priority over what packages we keep or
discard.
Darrell
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