16 Jul
2014
16 Jul
'14
1:26 p.m.
Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu sidebar for v14.0.0.
Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your thoughts on the new look.
Personally I think it's great and more in style with the changes already made to
KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen.
I have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
16 Jul
16 Jul
2:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
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Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu sidebar
for v14.0.0.
Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your thoughts on the new
look.
Personally I think it's great and more in style with the changes already
made to KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen.
I have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
Looks nice to me. I still miss that "retro" look from the early 2000s,
but we can't keep TDE there forever. :-)
I don't think there's a way to customize the sidebar tile from the GUI or
with any theme management tools. This is a feature we should probably add
at some point.
Tim
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9:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:26:15 +0100
Michele Calgaro <michele.calgaro(a)yahoo.it> wrote:
Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu sidebar for v14.0.0.
Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your thoughts on the new look.
Personally I think it's great and more in style with the changes already made to
KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen.
I have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
It looks flat, but then flat is "in" with respect to user interfaces these
days. It does represent a noticeable colour shift from the old KDE3
menu strip (from "logo blue" to teal), but that isn't innately wrong
either.
So my response is mostly neutral, and I'll go along with everyone
else's decision.
If we get hundreds of emails complaining, we can always switch it
back.
E. Liddell
9:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Wednesday 16 of July 2014 15:26:15 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu sidebar
for v14.0.0. Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your thoughts
on the new look. Personally I think it's great and more in style with the
changes already made to KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen. I
have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
At first glance, it looks nice. But I have two comments:
1) It seemed to me strange logo 'T' rotated to vertical. At first I wondered
if it would be better to leave it unrotated. Then I realized another thing:
There is too much icons. Icons on the menu, icon in the new sidebar image,
but also the icon on the kicker button from which the menu is opened. All
icons are together in one small area.
2) TDE is an acronym Trinity Desktop Environment. Trinity TDE is therefore as
Trinity Trinity Desktop Environment. It is a bit odd? But I have no idea how
to improve it. Let alone TDE is not good. Give dash between Trinity and TDE -
it would probably be too weird. Leave alone Trinity (as is now)?
--
Slavek
9:56 p.m.
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On Wednesday 16 of July 2014 15:26:15 Michele Calgaro
wrote:
Yes, I would also suggest plain Trinity or TDE, not both. Good catch Slavek!
Tim
Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu
sidebar
for v14.0.0. Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your
thoughts
on the new look. Personally I think it's great and more in style with
the
changes already made to KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen.
I
have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
At first glance, it looks nice. But I have two comments:
1) It seemed to me strange logo 'T' rotated to vertical. At first I
wondered
if it would be better to leave it unrotated. Then I realized another
thing:
There is too much icons. Icons on the menu, icon in the new sidebar image,
but also the icon on the kicker button from which the menu is opened. All
icons are together in one small area.
2) TDE is an acronym Trinity Desktop Environment. Trinity TDE is therefore
as
Trinity Trinity Desktop Environment. It is a bit odd? But I have no idea
how
to improve it. Let alone TDE is not good. Give dash between Trinity and
TDE -
it would probably be too weird. Leave alone Trinity (as is now)?
--
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9:57 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
From: slavek.banko(a)axis.cz
To: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:35:37 +0200
Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Wednesday 16 of July 2014 15:26:15 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Hi everyone!
First of all, thank you for your feedback!
If you are interested in having the TDE logo rotated, the text changed or a color that is
better matching vintage KDE color set, it is very easy to change in Gimp. So, just let me
know what you want and I'll upload the new picture set.
Thank you!
-Alexandre
Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu sidebar
for v14.0.0. Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear your thoughts
on the new look. Personally I think it's great and more in style with the
changes already made to KPersonalizer and the new default splash screen. I
have attached a sample image of what a new menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
At first glance, it looks nice. But I have two comments:
1) It seemed to me strange logo 'T' rotated to vertical. At first I wondered
if it would be better to leave it unrotated. Then I realized another thing:
There is too much icons. Icons on the menu, icon in the new sidebar image,
but also the icon on the kicker button from which the menu is opened. All
icons are together in one small area.
2) TDE is an acronym Trinity Desktop Environment. Trinity TDE is therefore as
Trinity Trinity Desktop Environment. It is a bit odd? But I have no idea how
to improve it. Let alone TDE is not good. Give dash between Trinity and TDE -
it would probably be too weird. Leave alone Trinity (as is now)?
--
Slavek
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10:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Wednesday 16 of July 2014 23:57:15 Alexandre wrote:
I would have liked:
1) Leave a Trinity itself, without TDE.
2) A three variants of 'T' logo
a) unrotated
b) unrotated and vertically aligned with the menu icons
c) without the 'T' logo
Please, can you create such three proposals?
Thank you
--
Slavek
From:
slavek.banko(a)axis.cz
To: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:35:37 +0200
Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed
for v14.0.0
On Wednesday 16 of July 2014 15:26:15 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Hi everyone!
First of all, thank you for your feedback!
If you are interested in having the TDE logo rotated, the text changed or a
color that is better matching vintage KDE color set, it is very easy to
change in Gimp. So, just let me know what you want and I'll upload the new
picture set.
Thank you!
-Alexandre Dear all,
in bug 2074 Alex has proposed a new image for the TDE Classic menu
sidebar for v14.0.0. Before pushing it to GIT, I would like to hear
your thoughts on the new look. Personally I think it's great and more
in style with the changes already made to KPersonalizer and the new
default splash screen. I have attached a sample image of what a new
menu looks like.
Cheers
Michele
At first glance, it looks nice. But I have two comments:
1) It seemed to me strange logo 'T' rotated to vertical. At first I
wondered if it would be better to leave it unrotated. Then I realized
another thing: There is too much icons. Icons on the menu, icon in the
new sidebar image, but also the icon on the kicker button from which the
menu is opened. All icons are together in one small area.
2) TDE is an acronym Trinity Desktop Environment. Trinity TDE is
therefore as Trinity Trinity Desktop Environment. It is a bit odd? But I
have no idea how to improve it. Let alone TDE is not good. Give dash
between Trinity and TDE - it would probably be too weird. Leave alone
Trinity (as is now)?
--
Slavek
17 Jul
17 Jul
12:03 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
I would have liked:
1) Leave a Trinity itself, without TDE.
2) A three variants of 'T' logo
a) unrotated
b) unrotated and vertically aligned with the menu icons
c) without the 'T' logo
Please, can you create such three proposals?
Thank you
--
Slavek
Here is a few propositions.
I still prefer the original proposition, but these deserves to be seen too!
Tell me what you think!
-Alexandre
1:28 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
Here is a few propositions. I still prefer the
original
proposition, but these deserves to be seen too!
Hi Alex,
thanks for the various files.
How about "Trinity DE"? Very similar to the original one, but without the
"trinity" repetition.
Or another one could be "Trinity Desktop Environment"
As for the icon, I think it looks better if aligned with the sidebar text (i.e. rotated).
Alternatively we could use no icon.
The unrotated logo seems weird to me, because the sidebar text is rotated.
Cheers
Michele
2:56 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
Hi Alex,
thanks for the various files.
How about "Trinity DE"? Very similar to the original one, but without the
"trinity" repetition.
Or another one could be "Trinity Desktop Environment"
As for the icon, I think it looks better if aligned with the sidebar text (i.e. rotated).
Alternatively we could use no icon.
The unrotated logo seems weird to me, because the sidebar text is rotated.
Cheers
Michele
Here it is!
I personally like the ''Trinity TDE'' version. The full one looks a little
over-loaded and ''DE'' alone seem strange. Just an opinion.
I prefer the icon rotated too!
-Alexandre
3:32 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
I personally like the ''Trinity TDE''
version. The full one looks a little over-loaded and ''DE'' alone seem
strange.
Just an opinion.
I prefer the icon rotated too!
Thanks again Alex.
I agree that the "DE" alone looks a little awkward.
For me, the best one is the full "Trinity Desktop Environment" version, but I am
fine with the original "Trinity TDE" or "TDE" as well. Let's see
other people's comment as well.
Cheers
Michele
7:13 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Thursday 17 of July 2014 04:56:31 Alexandre wrote:
I was worried that the use of the whole Trinity Desktop Environment is too
long for sidebar, but it looks good! Personally, I prefer the variant with
whole Trinity Desktop Environment without logo.
Alexandre, please, can you create next sample - including the preview of menu?
Thank you for your effort.
Note:
As a variant of the proper name are officially quoted: "Trinity," "Trinity
Desktop Environment," or "TDE". I think we should keep these listed options
and do not add more.
--
Slávek
Hi Alex,
thanks for the various files.
How about "Trinity DE"? Very similar to the original one, but without the
"trinity" repetition. Or another one could be "Trinity Desktop
Environment"
As for the icon, I think it looks better if aligned with the sidebar text
(i.e. rotated). Alternatively we could use no icon. The unrotated logo
seems weird to me, because the sidebar text is rotated.
Cheers
Michele
Here it is!
I personally like the ''Trinity TDE'' version. The full one looks a
little
over-loaded and ''DE'' alone seem strange. Just an opinion. I prefer the
icon rotated too!
-Alexandre
7:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
I was worried that the use of the whole Trinity
Desktop Environment is too
long for sidebar, but it looks good! Personally, I prefer the variant with
whole Trinity Desktop Environment without logo.
Alexandre, please, can you create next sample - including the preview of menu?
Thank you for your effort.
Note:
As a variant of the proper name are officially quoted: "Trinity," "Trinity
Desktop Environment," or "TDE". I think we should keep these listed
options
and do not add more.
--
Slávek
I think it is still better with the rotated icon. I had to create this sample snapshot
with Gimp, because the option to show/hide this side picture doesn't even work on
Ubuntu on R14, as much on 13.10 as on 14.04.
I think you have more than enough choices and variants. More than that would be a little
ridiculous...
-Alexandre
18 Jul
18 Jul
12:13 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
On Thursday 17 of July 2014 21:54:15 Alexandre wrote:
I think it is still better with the rotated icon. I
had to create this
sample snapshot with Gimp, because the option to show/hide this side
picture doesn't even work on Ubuntu on R14, as much on 13.10 as on 14.04.
I think you have more than enough choices and variants. More than that
would be a little ridiculous...
-Alexandre
The icon is complicated:
+ rotated looks strangely
+ unrotated does not match the text direction
+ in both cases - there are too many icons on a too small area
(this is well shown in http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=2087)
All samples created by Alexandre was added to a bug report 2074:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074
In my personal opinion - the sample from the last email (full long name
without logo => sample 8) looks best. Your opinions are welcome.
Alexandre, thank you again!
--
Slávek
1:02 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
In my personal opinion - the sample from the last
email (full long name
without logo => sample 8) looks best. Your opinions are welcome.
I agree with Slavek, full text no icon seems the best compromise.
Cheers
Michele
17 Jul
17 Jul
7:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] New TDE Classic menu sidebar image proposed for v14.0.0
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2014 schrieb Alexandre:
These look fine :-)
I would use the version with the not-rotated logo. Logos are all about recognizability,
rotationg does not make that easier.
Nik
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I would have liked:
1) Leave a Trinity itself, without TDE.
2) A three variants of 'T' logo
a) unrotated
b) unrotated and vertically aligned with the menu icons
c) without the 'T' logo
Please, can you create such three proposals?
Thank you
--
Slavek
Here is a few propositions.
I still prefer the original proposition, but these deserves to be seen too!
Tell me what you think!
-Alexandre
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