6 Feb
2025
6 Feb
'25
6:33 p.m.
# zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep files
i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System Packages)
v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | TDEnoarch
# rpm -e --nodeps trinity-filesystem
# rpm -qa | grep y-files
# rpm -ivh
/var/cache/zypp/packages/TDEnoarch/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [100%]
# zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep files
i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System Packages)
v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | TDEnoarch
#
Whether installation by zypper or rpm, the above sequence of events
has been the state of affairs on multiple installations for more than
a month, perhaps more than four.
There's also this:
# grep y-files /var/log/zypp/history | tail -n3
2024-03-23 21:47:47|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.1-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|98abd…
2024-05-19 02:27:49|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.2-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|1326e…
2024-10-31 01:04:49|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.3-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|79367…
The result should resemble approximately the following:
# zypper se -sx trinity-tdm | grep tdm
i | trinity-tdm | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | x86_64 | TDE
#
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6 Feb
6 Feb
7:10 p.m.
On 2025-02-06 12:33:55 Felix Miata via tde-devels wrote:
# zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep files
i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System
Packages) v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch |
TDEnoarch # rpm -e --nodeps trinity-filesystem
# rpm -qa | grep y-files
# rpm -ivh
/var/cache/zypp/packages/TDEnoarch/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch
.rpm Verifying... #################################
[100%] Preparing...
################################# [100%] Updating / installing...
1:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw#################################
[100%] # zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep files
i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System
Packages) v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch |
TDEnoarch #
Whether installation by zypper or rpm, the above sequence of events
has been the state of affairs on multiple installations for more than
a month, perhaps more than four.
There's also this:
# grep y-files /var/log/zypp/history | tail -n3
2024-03-23
21:47:47|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.1-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|98abd…
2024-05-19
02:27:49|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.2-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|1326e…
2024-10-31
01:04:49|install|trinity-filesystem|14.1.3-1.osstw|noarch||TDEnoarch|79367…
The result should resemble approximately the following:
# zypper se -sx trinity-tdm | grep tdm
i | trinity-tdm | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | x86_64 | TDE
#
Does this happen only on Tumbleweed installations? If so, it looks like some
sort of weirdness in the repository (or repository content) definitions. I
suppose that using a capability selector (e.g. 'trinity-filesystem<=14.1.3',
etc.) shows the same?
Leslie
--
Platform: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.1.3
tde-config: 1.0
7:36 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff composed on 2025-02-06 13:10 (UTC-0600):
Felix Miata wrote:
> # zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep files
> i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System
> Packages) v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch |
> TDEnoarch # rpm -e --nodeps trinity-filesystem
> # rpm -qa | grep y-files
> # rpm -ivh
Does this happen only on Tumbleweed installations?
I don't remember. I suspect it may be only those and Slowroll, but on all,
there's
a suspicious recurrence of same package versions being reinstalled over and over
again on those two and Leap.
If so, it looks like some
sort of weirdness in the repository (or repository content) definitions. I
suppose that using a capability selector (e.g. 'trinity-filesystem<=14.1.3',
etc.) shows the same?
I don't know anything about "capability" selection. My only suspicion about
these
package reinstallations, a tenuous one, has to do with my TW and SR repo caches
being on bind mounts, not local, with rpm file ownerships not being 0:0.
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based on faith, not based on science.
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Felix Miata
12 Feb
12 Feb
4:06 a.m.
Felix Miata composed on 2025-02-06 14:36 (UTC-0500):
J Leslie Turriff composed on 2025-02-06 13:10
(UTC-0600):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> # zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep
files
>> i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System
>> Packages) v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch |
>> TDEnoarch # rpm -e --nodeps trinity-filesystem
>> # rpm -qa | grep y-files
>> # rpm -ivh
> Does this happen only on Tumbleweed
installations?
I don't remember. I suspect it may be only those
and Slowroll, but on all, there's
a suspicious recurrence of same package versions being reinstalled over and over
again on those two and Leap.
> If so, it looks like some
> sort of weirdness in the repository (or repository content) definitions. I
> suppose that using a capability selector (e.g.
'trinity-filesystem<=14.1.3',
> etc.) shows the same?
I don't know anything about "capability"
selection. My only suspicion about these
package reinstallations, a tenuous one, has to do with my TW and SR repo caches
being on bind mounts, not local, with rpm file ownerships not being 0:0.
Force installing the package changes nothing apparent:
# rpm -Uvh --force trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [ 50%]
Cleaning up / removing...
2:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [100%]
# zypper --no-refresh se -s y-files | grep -v '32bit|debug|devel|srcp|openSUSE-20'
| egrep 'x86|noarch'| sort -f
il | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System Packages)
vl | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | TDEnoarch
#
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based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
3 Mar
3 Mar
4:45 p.m.
Felix Miata composed on 2025-02-11 23:06 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata composed on 2025-02-06 14:36 (UTC-0500):
> J Leslie Turriff composed on 2025-02-06 13:10
(UTC-0600):
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>>> # zypper se -sx trinity-filesystem | grep
files
>>> i | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System
>>> Packages) v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch |
>>> TDEnoarch # rpm -e --nodeps trinity-filesystem
>>> # rpm -qa | grep y-files
>>> # rpm -ivh
>> Does this happen only on Tumbleweed
installations?
> I don't remember. I suspect it may be only
those and Slowroll, but on all, there's
> a suspicious recurrence of same package versions being reinstalled over and over
> again on those two and Leap.
>> If so, it looks like some
>> sort of weirdness in the repository (or repository content) definitions. I
>> suppose that using a capability selector (e.g.
'trinity-filesystem<=14.1.3',
>> etc.) shows the same?
> I don't know anything about
"capability" selection. My only suspicion about these
> package reinstallations, a tenuous one, has to do with my TW and SR repo caches
> being on bind mounts, not local, with rpm file ownerships not being 0:0.
Force installing the package changes nothing
apparent:
# rpm -Uvh --force trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [ 50%]
Cleaning up / removing...
2:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [100%]
# zypper --no-refresh se -s y-files | grep -v
'32bit|debug|devel|srcp|openSUSE-20' | egrep 'x86|noarch'| sort -f
il | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System Packages)
vl | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | TDEnoarch
#
The puzzle continues:
# zypper --no-refresh se -s ty-files | grep -v
'32bit|debug|devel|srcp|openSUSE-20' | egrep 'x86|noarch'| sort -f
i+ | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | (System Packages)
v | trinity-filesystem | package | 14.1.3-1.osstw | noarch | TDEnoarch
# zypper -v in trinity-filesystem
Verbosity: 2
Non-option program arguments: 'trinity-filesystem'
Initializing Target
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS
Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Update
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
'trinity-filesystem' is already installed.
No update candidate for 'trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch'. The highest
available version is already installed.
Resolving package dependencies...
Force resolution: No
Nothing to do.
# zypper -v in -f -d trinity-filesystem
Verbosity: 2
Non-option program arguments: 'trinity-filesystem'
Initializing Target
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS
Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS
Checking whether to refresh metadata for Update
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Forcing installation of 'trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch' from repository
'TDEnoarch'.
Resolving package dependencies...
Force resolution: No
The following package is going to be reinstalled:
trinity-filesystem 14.1.3-1.osstw
1 package to reinstall.
Package download size: 56.9 KiB
Download only.
Backend: classic_rpmtrans --download-only
Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y
committing
Retrieving: trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch (TDEnoarch)
(1/1), 56.9
KiB
Retrieving: trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
.................................................................................................................[done
(43.4 KiB/s)]
Failed to provide Package trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch (TDEnoarch). Do you
want to retry retrieval?
[TDEnoarch|http://archive.trinitydesktop.net/trinity/rpm/osstw/trinity-r14/R…]
Can't provide file './trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm' from
repository 'TDEnoarch'
History:
- Can't hardlink/copy
/var/tmp/AP_0xK6G459/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm to
/var/cache/zypp/packages/TDEnoarch
- Can't provide ./trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): i
CommitResult (total 1, done 0, error 1, skipped 0, updateMessages 0)
Installation has completed with error.
# rpm -Uvh tmp/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
package trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch is already installed
ab85m:~ # rpm -Uvh --nodeps --oldpackage tmp/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
package trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch is already installed
ab85m:~ # rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps --oldpackage
tmp/trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [ 50%]
Cleaning up / removing...
2:trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw################################# [100%]
# ls -gG tmp
total 114
-rw-rw-r-- 1 58262 Jan 26 05:34 trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm
-r--r--r-- 1 58076 Oct 29 03:30 trinity-filesystem-14.1.3-1.osstw.noarch.rpm202412
#
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