Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
On 2014/12/04 12:06 PM, Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Tim, this week I would like to update the installation instructions for Debian/Ubuntu distros. Are the links for v14.0.0 going to remain the same as the current ones? Or are we going to change R14.0.0 to v14.0.0 such as in http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0 -> http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v14.0.0?
Cheers Michele
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On 2014/12/04 12:06 PM, Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Tim, this week I would like to update the installation instructions for Debian/Ubuntu distros. Are the links for v14.0.0 going to remain the same as the current ones? Or are we going to change R14.0.0 to v14.0.0 such as in http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0 -> http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v14.0.0?
Cheers Michele
The links will remain the same; with the change from the vA.B.C.D scheme to the RA.B.C scheme came a change of the leading letter in the PPAs for consistency.
Tim
Dne čt 4. prosince 2014 Michele Calgaro napsal(a):
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
I was doing, I think, important research regarding the upgrade 3.5.13.2 => R14.0.0. I believe that it is necessary to include this information in the release notes. See bug 2245:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245
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Dne čt 4. prosince 2014 Michele Calgaro napsal(a):
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
I was doing, I think, important research regarding the upgrade 3.5.13.2 => R14.0.0. I believe that it is necessary to include this information in the release notes. See bug 2245:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245
-- Slávek
I was following your report; thanks for doing that!
Yes, this information should be included in the release notes.
Tim
On 12/10/2014 03:12 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
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Dne čt 4. prosince 2014 Michele Calgaro napsal(a):
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
I was doing, I think, important research regarding the upgrade 3.5.13.2 => R14.0.0. I believe that it is necessary to include this information in the release notes. See bug 2245:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2245
-- Slávek
I was following your report; thanks for doing that!
Yes, this information should be included in the release notes.
Tim
I will update in a little while. Cheers Michele
Tim, Francois, I have been looking at updating the installation instructions for RedHat/CentOS/Fedora on the wiki, but it seems that no rpm package is available for R14.0.0 yet. Has the location changed or are the packages actually not ready yet?
Thanks.
Michele
Le 11/12/2014 03:55, Michele Calgaro a écrit :
Tim, Francois, I have been looking at updating the installation instructions for RedHat/CentOS/Fedora on the wiki, but it seems that no rpm package is available for R14.0.0 yet. Has the location changed or are the packages actually not ready yet?
Thanks.
Michele
Hello, RPM packages are not built yet. The update instructions will be as simple as the installation: manually install the package containing the R14 repository information, then running "yum update".
François
On 2014/12/11 02:39 PM, François Andriot wrote:
Le 11/12/2014 03:55, Michele Calgaro a écrit :
Tim, Francois, I have been looking at updating the installation instructions for RedHat/CentOS/Fedora on the wiki, but it seems that no rpm package is available for R14.0.0 yet. Has the location changed or are the packages actually not ready yet?
Thanks.
Michele
Hello, RPM packages are not built yet. The update instructions will be as simple as the installation: manually install the package containing the R14 repository information, then running "yum update".
François
Thanks François, then I will update the instructions on the wiki once the packages are available. The changes required are quite small, mostly copy-n-paste.
Cheers Michele
Thanks François, then I will update the instructions on the wiki once the packages are available. The changes required are quite small, mostly copy-n-paste.
Cheers Michele
Hi all,
Concerning the packaging of R14 for PCLinuxOS, I would like to know if it is possible to still keep available the 3.5.13.2 packages up until the second release or the R14 series?
I have less time these days and I am not sure if I will build my PCLinuxOS remaster for R14.0.0 yet, thus, the version based on 3.5.13.2 will remain the ''latest'' one. Also, the R14 series will have time to mature.
-Alexandre
On Wed December 10 2014 11:39:52 pm François Andriot wrote:
RPM packages are not built yet. The update instructions will be as simple as the installation: manually install the package containing the R14 repository information, then running "yum update".
Francois, Do you have a build environment or scripts available online for F21/R14?
Darrell
Le 15/12/2014 21:50, Darrell a écrit :
On Wed December 10 2014 11:39:52 pm François Andriot wrote:
RPM packages are not built yet. The update instructions will be as simple as the installation: manually install the package containing the R14 repository information, then running "yum update".
Francois, Do you have a build environment or scripts available online for F21/R14?
Darrell
Not yet, but I have already built R14 packages for Fedora 21 locally. There is no update instruction here because there was no TDE 3.5.13.2 for Fedora 21.
I will put them on mirrors soon.
François
Not yet, but I have already built R14 packages for Fedora 21 locally. There is no update instruction here because there was no TDE 3.5.13.2 for Fedora 21.
I will put them on mirrors soon.
Thank you. Please let us know when that happens? I am using Fedora 21 quite a bit and would much like to install R14. :)
I want to learn to build TDE on F21. Hence my focus on build environment and scripts. Several days ago I created a build user account and basic environment, but I have much to learn about building on Fedora. I am hoping I can copy your TDE build environment to help my learning curve. :)
Darrell
Le 15/12/2014 22:25, Darrell a écrit :
Not yet, but I have already built R14 packages for Fedora 21 locally. There is no update instruction here because there was no TDE 3.5.13.2 for Fedora 21.
I will put them on mirrors soon.
Thank you. Please let us know when that happens? I am using Fedora 21 quite a bit and would much like to install R14. :)
I want to learn to build TDE on F21. Hence my focus on build environment and scripts. Several days ago I created a build user account and basic environment, but I have much to learn about building on Fedora. I am hoping I can copy your TDE build environment to help my learning curve. :)
Darrell
OK I've just signed and verified the Fedora 21 packages. They work well on a freshly installed Fedora Workstation 21. I've pushed them to the mirror directory, they will be available soon.
Installation instructions are the same as 3.5.13.2: 1) Configure "rpmfusion" repository for F21 2) Install the "trinity-repo" package from the TDE mirror 3) run "yum install trinity-tdebase" Then you can disable GDM / enable TDM, as said in Wiki.
Some day I will write some instructions for the RPM build environnment. All needed files are already under Git in "tde-packaging/redhat", but not documented.
François
OK I've just signed and verified the Fedora 21 packages. They work well on a freshly installed Fedora Workstation 21. I've pushed them to the mirror directory, they will be available soon.
Installation instructions are the same as 3.5.13.2:
- Configure "rpmfusion" repository for F21
- Install the "trinity-repo" package from the TDE mirror
- run "yum install trinity-tdebase"
Then you can disable GDM / enable TDM, as said in Wiki.
I already have rpmfusion in my repos. I will wait a day or two to to ensure the trinity-repo file is available.
As your TDE packages are submitted to rpmfusion, which is a normal repo for fedora users, do you know whether the LibreOffice packages are patched to use TDE dialogs?
Some day I will write some instructions for the RPM build environnment. All needed files are already under Git in "tde-packaging/redhat", but not documented.
If your uploads includes srpms then I will have acces to the spec files and can start tinkering from there.
Darrell
Then you can disable GDM / enable TDM, as said in Wiki.
To anybody,
Has anybody tested TDM on a workstation with multiple desktop environments? For example, one user using TDE, another Mate, another GNOME, etc. and then switching to TDM to login new users using different desktops?
Does the Fedora Display Manager Switching Tool recognize TDM when TDM is installed in /opt/trinity? I don't know how the tool detects the different DMs that are installed. Is this driven by *.service files rather than $PATH?
In Fedora, display managers are packaged separately. Should TDM be packaged separately too? I haven't looked but if packaged separately, could TDM then be installed in /usr and not conflict with KDM?
Darrell
On 12/10/2014 03:00 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
I was doing, I think, important research regarding the upgrade 3.5.13.2 => R14.0.0. I believe that it is necessary to include this information in the release notes. See bug 2245:
Tim, Slavek, being a Debian/Ubuntu related problem, I put a note on the Debian/Ubuntu instruction pages instead of the Release Notes page. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instr... https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instr... See the Install Trinity section at the end.
Cheers Michele
On Wednesday 10 of December 2014 05:34:52 Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 12/10/2014 03:00 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
I was doing, I think, important research regarding the upgrade 3.5.13.2 => R14.0.0. I believe that it is necessary to include this information in the release notes. See bug 2245:
Tim, Slavek, being a Debian/Ubuntu related problem, I put a note on the Debian/Ubuntu instruction pages instead of the Release Notes page. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst ructions https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst ructions See the Install Trinity section at the end.
Cheers Michele
Note: TDE 3.5.13.2 is not available for Ubuntu 13.10 and newer.
On Thursday 11 of December 2014 05:00:59 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Note: TDE 3.5.13.2 is not available for Ubuntu 13.10 and newer.
Ah ah! I did it right for Jessie, but I overlooked that in Ubuntu. I will update the page.
Thanks Michele
Thank you, because I have so far not create a new account on the new wiki :)
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my small builder - my alternative apt source - I have support for Wheezy on PowerPC and MIPS platform. We want to mention this in the official informations?
Incidentally, MIPS version could possibly work on the recently announced board MIPS Creator CI20 - http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
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On 2014/12/14 09:32 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my small builder - my alternative apt source - I have support for Wheezy on PowerPC and MIPS platform. We want to mention this in the official informations?
Incidentally, MIPS version could possibly work on the recently announced board MIPS Creator CI20 - http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
Good, I will update the Release Notes tomorrow. Cheers
Michele
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On 12/14/2014 09:32 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my small builder - my alternative apt source - I have support for Wheezy on PowerPC and MIPS platform. We want to mention this in the official informations?
Incidentally, MIPS version could possibly work on the recently announced board MIPS Creator CI20 - http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
Done. Cheers Michele
On Monday 15 of December 2014 03:54:40 Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 12/14/2014 09:32 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my small builder - my alternative apt source - I have support for Wheezy on PowerPC and MIPS platform. We want to mention this in the official informations?
Incidentally, MIPS version could possibly work on the recently announced board MIPS Creator CI20 - http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
Done. Cheers Michele
Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
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Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
Sounds good to me. Another option would be for Tim to make them available on the main site.
Cheers Michele
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Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
Sounds good to me. Another option would be for Tim to make them available on the main site.
Cheers Michele
I'm not opposed to this idea, but I'd need some additional funding for the new architecture-specific builders. In particular for MIPS there is a 1.2GHz new board that runs Debian and would be a good candidate.
Any volunteers?
Tim
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On 2014/12/16 11:56 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
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Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
Sounds good to me. Another option would be for Tim to make them available on the main site.
Cheers Michele
I'm not opposed to this idea, but I'd need some additional funding for the new architecture-specific builders. In particular for MIPS there is a 1.2GHz new board that runs Debian and would be a good candidate.
Any volunteers?
Tim
Perhaps a "cheaper" way for MIPS and POWERPC is for Slavek to continue building on his builders and then just copy the built packages over to the main site for download. What's your opinion? Cheers Michele
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On 2014/12/16 11:56 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
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Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
Sounds good to me. Another option would be for Tim to make them available on the main site.
Cheers Michele
I'm not opposed to this idea, but I'd need some additional funding for the new architecture-specific builders. In particular for MIPS there is a 1.2GHz new board that runs Debian and would be a good candidate.
Any volunteers?
Tim
Perhaps a "cheaper" way for MIPS and POWERPC is for Slavek to continue building on his builders and then just copy the built packages over to the main site for download. What's your opinion? Cheers Michele
That is of course an option, though it does require maintaining two separate repositories with separate installation instructions as a result. In a normal business environment the time required to maintain the separate MIPS/POWER repositories and documentation would be factored in; in the FOSS world maybe all I need is a sponsor who will keep all of that up to date?
Tim
On Tuesday 16 of December 2014 03:29:17 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Great, thank you.
A supplementary question: Since these extra architectures are available only from my alternative apt source, I should add instructions for its use to the official installation instructions for Debian?
What is your opinion?
Sounds good to me. Another option would be for Tim to make them available on the main site.
Cheers Michele
Currently I am doing the final build for R14.0.0. If would be interested in sync packages to the official site, it will take some time to wait. However, I suppose that packages can not be integrated into the same apt source that is exported from QuickBuild farm. So it would anyway be different apt source.
By the way, LibreOffice packages with TDE integration are ready now. Currently not waiting for any rebuild.
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my alternative apt source is available LibreOffice with TDE integration. Compared to official packages on build-farm differences are as follows:
1) For now are available packages only for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) and Debian 7.x (Wheezy) on amd64 and i386. No more.
2) As base was used source packages from Ubuntu Trusty Updates/Security and Wheezy Backports => no need for extra dependencies.
3) Are now up-to-date - for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) - 1:4.2.7-0ubuntu1+tde0 - for Debian 7.x (Wheezy) - 1:4.3.3~rc2-1~bpo70+1+tde0
4) Are built including the KDE4 integration, if someone wanted to use this...
We want to mention this in the official informations?
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On 2014/12/14 10:04 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
On Thursday 04 of December 2014 04:06:30 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tim, a first draft of the Release Notes page for v14.0.0 is now available at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.0.0 Please have a look and feel free to edit it as you see appropriately.
One of the TODO task is to update the installation instructions for the various distros, which currently refer to 3.5.13.2. Although v14.0.0 has not been released yet, we should probably start the update, so we will be ready when v14.0.0 is out of the door. Do you agree? I can do Debian/Ubuntu distros. For Fedora/RedHat Francois would probably be a better candidate, but I can have a shot at them as well, if no one else is willing to do that.
Cheers Michele
Question: On my alternative apt source is available LibreOffice with TDE integration. Compared to official packages on build-farm differences are as follows:
- For now are available packages only for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty)
and Debian 7.x (Wheezy) on amd64 and i386. No more.
- As base was used source packages from Ubuntu Trusty
Updates/Security and Wheezy Backports => no need for extra dependencies.
- Are now up-to-date - for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) -
1:4.2.7-0ubuntu1+tde0 - for Debian 7.x (Wheezy) - 1:4.3.3~rc2-1~bpo70+1+tde0
- Are built including the KDE4 integration, if someone wanted to
use this...
We want to mention this in the official informations?
Good, I will update the Release Notes tomorrow. Cheers
Michele
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