5 Dec
2011
5 Dec
'11
3:15 a.m.
I was looking at bug report 343 and decided to test Kaffeine 3.5.13 to see whether I could
duplicate the DVB problem with Slackware 13.1.
Seems DVB works fine with 13.1. So I might recommend closing the bug.
Yet one thing I notice with TDE is the DVB OSD is different.
In KDE3 with Kaffeine 0.8.8, I have an OSD that is grayish in color, with cyan text, and a
magenta rule line. Easy on my eyes.
In TDE I have an OSD that is flourescent green, with reddish text and a yellow/gold rule
line. I have been trying to compare the sources, but I can't find anything that
explains the color changes.
I am running KDE3 and TDE on the same machine, same video card, same Kaffeine config
files, etc.
I find the flourescent green hard on my eyes and prefer the old colors. Does anybody know
when the color changes occured and which sources need to be patched?
Or is this a bug?
As far as I know, Kaffeine 3.5.13 is fundamentally Kaffeine 0.8.8. Other than the TQT
layer, I don't see anything in the patches lists identifying other changes.
Thanks.
Darrell
6 Dec
6 Dec
5:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
I was looking at bug report 343 and
decided to test Kaffeine 3.5.13 to see whether I could
duplicate the DVB problem with Slackware 13.1.
Seems DVB works fine with 13.1. So I might recommend
closing the bug.
Yet one thing I notice with TDE is the DVB OSD is
different.
In KDE3 with Kaffeine 0.8.8, I have an OSD that is grayish
in color, with cyan text, and a magenta rule line. Easy on
my eyes.
In TDE I have an OSD that is flourescent green, with
reddish text and a yellow/gold rule line. I have been trying
to compare the sources, but I can't find anything that
explains the color changes.
I am running KDE3 and TDE on the same machine, same video
card, same Kaffeine config files, etc.
I find the flourescent green hard on my eyes and prefer the
old colors. Does anybody know when the color changes occured
and which sources need to be patched?
Or is this a bug?
As far as I know, Kaffeine 3.5.13 is fundamentally Kaffeine
0.8.8. Other than the TQT layer, I don't see anything in the
patches lists identifying other changes.
Anybody?
Darrell
6:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
I was looking
at bug report 343 and
decided to test Kaffeine 3.5.13 to see whether I could
duplicate the DVB problem with Slackware 13.1.
Seems DVB works fine with 13.1. So I might recommend
closing the bug.
Yet one thing I notice with TDE is the DVB OSD is
different.
In KDE3 with Kaffeine 0.8.8, I have an OSD that is grayish
in color, with cyan text, and a magenta rule line. Easy on
my eyes.
In TDE I have an OSD that is flourescent green, with
reddish text and a yellow/gold rule line. I have been trying
to compare the sources, but I can't find anything that
explains the color changes.
I am running KDE3 and TDE on the same machine, same video
card, same Kaffeine config files, etc.
I find the flourescent green hard on my eyes and prefer the
old colors. Does anybody know when the color changes occured
and which sources need to be patched?
Or is this a bug?
As far as I know, Kaffeine 3.5.13 is fundamentally Kaffeine
0.8.8. Other than the TQT layer, I don't see anything in the
patches lists identifying other changes.
Anybody?
Darrell
6:56 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
Le Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:01:45 -0600,
"Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> a écrit :
Does Slackware have distribution specific patches like
Debian and
others do? If so someone might have patched Kaffeine to resolve this
problem on Slackware.
There is no Slackware official package for Kaffeine. The
build script
in http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/kaffeine/ has no
non-trival patch, but I don't know if it is the script Darrell used.
8:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
There is no Slackware official package for Kaffeine.
The
build script
in http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/kaffeine/
has no
non-trival patch, but I don't know if it is the script
Darrell used.
Pretty much the same script, although I use a snippet from the slacky.eu script. Yet as
you said, there are no known non-trivial patches that could cause this behavior. The cause
has to be something in the TDE sources, in modified TDE header files, or in the video
detection scheme embedded somewhere in TDE Kaffeine.
The OSD bug does not cause a crash or anything serious, but the flourescent green is hard
on my eyes. Very geeky looking too. :(
Darrell
10:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
There is no
Slackware official package for Kaffeine. The
build script
in http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/kaffeine/
has no
non-trival patch, but I don't know if it is the script
Darrell used.
Pretty much the same script, although I use a snippet from the slacky.eu
script. Yet as you said, there are no known non-trivial patches that could
cause this behavior. The cause has to be something in the TDE sources, in
modified TDE header files, or in the video detection scheme embedded
somewhere in TDE Kaffeine.
The OSD bug does not cause a crash or anything serious, but the
flourescent green is hard on my eyes. Very geeky looking too. :(
Darrell
10:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
There is no Slackware official package for Kaffeine.
The
build script
in http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/kaffeine/
has no
non-trival patch, but I don't know if it is the script
Darrell used.
Pretty much the same script, although I use a snippet from the slacky.eu
script. Yet as you said, there are no known non-trivial patches that
could
cause this behavior. The cause has to be something in the TDE sources,
in
modified TDE header files, or in the video detection scheme embedded
somewhere in TDE Kaffeine.
The OSD bug does not cause a crash or anything serious, but the
flourescent green is hard on my eyes. Very geeky looking too. :(
Darrell
11:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
It looks like
upstream lost a lot of configuration
options in Kaffine in
the later releases. For example, here is an
older document referring to
the OSD configuration tab, which is competely
gone on
my systems:
> http://beginlinux.com/appsm/otherapps_m/kaffeine_m
>
> This should be looked into. Another idea: Are you using the Xine engine? If so
AFAIK Xine is the
program actually generating the OSD. Try changing the
OSD palette in the
Xine engine configuration dialog (it's in the Kaffeine
settings menu) to
see if the OSD colors change.
No luck. I received a message box that only the xine engine can be used for DVB. FWIW, as
my KDE3 and TDE systems use the same underlying OS, that means the same xine package too.
Darrell
11:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
> It looks
like upstream lost
a lot of configuration
options in Kaffine in
> the later releases. For example, here is
an
older document referring to
> the OSD configuration tab, which is competely
gone on
my systems:
> http://beginlinux.com/appsm/otherapps_m/kaffeine_m
>
> This should be looked into.
Huh. Now that I see those config dialogs, I vaguely recall
see them long ago. Vaguely.
I'll see whether I can find the sources for the older
versions. Whether they build is another story... Perhaps
some old sources might contain those related config file
settings and I can test whether they will still function.
11:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
> It looks like upstream lost
a lot of
configuration
options in Kaffine in
> the later releases. For example, here is
an
older document referring to
> the OSD configuration tab, which is competely
gone on
my systems:
> http://beginlinux.com/appsm/otherapps_m/kaffeine_m
>
> This should be looked into.
Huh. Now that I see those config dialogs, I vaguely recall
see them long ago. Vaguely.
I'll see whether I can find the sources for the older
versions. Whether they build is another story... Perhaps
some old sources might contain those related config file
settings and I can test whether they will still function.
7 Dec
7 Dec
12:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
Yes, I'm interested. I hate it when developers
remove
features due to
"well, no one has a reason to configure <feature xyz>
because it's the way
I like it, and everyone likes it that way".
I'll file a report.
I would need both the last version to have the
configuration options and
the next one after that, so that I can run a diff against
both of them.
I tried building 0.4.3.b. No go, but expected. I was hoping for some screen grabs.
I found the section of code that controls the DVB OSD size and colors. I more or less
understand what is happening, but don't know c++ syntax to fiddle. I suspect most of
that section can be snipped in favor of a single OSD size.
The DVB OSD colors are hard coded and those sections of coded are the same in KDE3 and
TDE. Therefore I think the flourscent green snafu is related to the Nvidia drivers, which
has already caused one bug report. When I get the chance I'll try running Kaffeine in
vesa and see what happens. Maybe if I'm lucky there is an Nvidia setting I can
change.
Darrell
2:48 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
Yes, I'm
interested. I
hate it when developers remove
features due to
"well, no one has a reason to configure <feature
xyz>
because it's the way
I like it, and everyone likes it that way".
I'll file a report. I found the section of code that controls the DVB OSD
size
and colors. I more or less understand what is happening, but
don't know c++ syntax to fiddle. I suspect most of that
section can be snipped in favor of a single OSD size.
The DVB OSD colors are hard coded and those sections of
coded are the same in KDE3 and TDE. Therefore I think the
flourscent green snafu is related to the Nvidia drivers,
which has already caused one bug report. When I get the
chance I'll try running Kaffeine in vesa and see what
happens. Maybe if I'm lucky there is an Nvidia setting I can
change.
I'm writing this from within TDE. The DVB OSD color problem is not related to the
Nvidia drivers.
I am wondering, however. The hard-coded rule/line is supposed to be magenta, which
displays correctly in KDE3. In TDE rule/line is yellow. The font color is supposed to be
cyan/bluish, which displays correctly in KDE3. In TDE the color is red.
Is there something in the TDE code function that is getting the colors confused or
shifted? The color values in the source code uses RGB values (255,255,255).
From what I see in KDE3 and what I think I understand in the source code, I should see a
grayish box, with cyan text (0,255,255) and a magenta rule (176,0,176). In TDE I see a
green box (0,176,0), with red text (255,0,0), and a yellow rule (255,255,0).
Only this DVB OSD is affected. I have seen no other color issues anywhere else.
I'll file the bug report but I'm throwing these ideas out for conversation.
Darrell
3:37 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
<snip>
I am wondering, however. The hard-coded rule/line is
supposed to be
magenta, which displays correctly in KDE3. In TDE rule/line is yellow. The
font color is supposed to be cyan/bluish, which displays correctly in
KDE3. In TDE the color is red.
Is there something in the TDE code function that is getting the colors
confused or shifted? The color values in the source code uses RGB values
(255,255,255).
From what I see in KDE3 and what I think I understand in the source code,
I should see a grayish box, with cyan text (0,255,255) and a magenta rule
(176,0,176). In TDE I see a green box (0,176,0), with red text (255,0,0),
and a yellow rule (255,255,0).
This almost sounds like the RGB triplet positions have been scrambled
somehow. What is the exact filename and line number of the affected code?
Thanks!
Tim
5:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
This almost sounds like the RGB triplet positions have
been
scrambled
somehow. What is the exact filename and line number
of the affected code?
Almost? But I could be in left field and the appearance of scrambling is a mirage.
Look at bug report 727 for the details
(http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=727).
Darrell
6 Dec
6 Dec
7:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Kaffeine DVB OSD Colors
Does Slackware have distribution specific patches
like
Debian and others
do? If so someone might have patched Kaffeine to
resolve this problem on
Slackware.
Sometimes, but not in the case of Kaffeine because Kaffeine is not a stock package. Users
must build and install Kaffeine on their own. There are no patches with Kaffeine. Just the
original upstream source tarball. Therefore the gray OSD and cyan text likely is the
original.
You are correct about our Kaffeine being the last
release
(0.8.8) with TQt
porting. The only thing I can think of is that
possibly Kaffeine is
picking up something odd in your TDE color scheme; if this
is not the case
then this is a bug and will need to be fixed.
I'd like to troubleshoot further before filing a report. :)
Same machine, same card, same settings, but different OSD colors. Weird.
I'll try again and this time delete the config files and build from scratch.
Incidentally I have a physical TV here that displays
similar
characteristics to your other OSD size bug. It seems
that some people
think it's a good idea to resize the OSD based on the
incoming datastream;
I am NOT one of them. ;-) The OSD is supposed to be a
fixed-size status
bar, no different than the physical bank of lights and
channel indicators
on old TV/VCR sets (except less convenient as it has to
disappear).
I'm glad you agree. :) Fortunately my TV uses the same channel information size all
the time. I hope the Kaffeine patch is straightforward. I have been trying my hand at
uploading really simple patches. This one likely is over my head still. :) But if you know
what needs to be done and provide the information I can spend my time trying. ;)
Darrell
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